Posted by Jim Scott on 10/29/02 11:26

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:10:08 +1000, dorayme wrote:

>> From: Jim Scott <mr.jimscott@Xvirgin.net>
>> Subject: css to replace frames
>>
>> Can someone help or point me towards help in replacing the following page
>> which uses frames with one which uses a stylesheet instead.
>> http://freespace.virgin.net/mr.jimscott/Jimspics_frames.html
>> --
>
>
> I am sure you know that you can't replace this page with a
> stylesheet, a stylesheet is what controls the styles on the html
> page. What else to do instead of frames is so big a question in
> the sense of there being so many alternatives that many will
> find it ... let us say... a daunting one.
>
> What features of the present set up are you very much wanting to
> preserve? If you have an open mind on this, I'd say to do the
> following. Forget about thumbnails (I think they are over-rated)
> and replace them with a text list floated to the left. Or have
> the landscape thumbnails on the left, maybe to be followed by
> the portrait ones below (or even on the right. You have not got
> so many, this would make them viewable without too much
> scrolling).
>
> Have the first pic display straight off on the right (or in the
> middle if you want thumbnails and you like the idea of the
> portrait ones on right).
>
> Crucially, have a html page for each pic. The same menu exactly
> on left, (your content is modest and hardly needs "includes" and
> fancy doodle dandy) the same code, the same everything except
> for the pic. You can do fancier with each page's menu item being
> in non link colour for the particular pic (if you can be
> bothered, I'd say don't worry as the pic itself and caption is
> enough not to cause any confusion). The css could be bog
> standard... The html too...
>
> (Just BTW, if you keep the frames for a while, may I suggest a
> couple of things: the home button looks quite odd stuck up there
> in a frame... and there is a way to be rid of the (imo) ugly
> blue "link colour" borders to the thumbnails. You need to either
> be rid of the borders "border: 0px..." in the appropriate spots.
> Or make some special class of link css and have "color:something
> appropriate. Put the home and next buttons in a simple right
> frame where there is a nice lot of room. Just have left and
> right frame. Simpler and nicer to look at.)
>
> A few thoughts anyway Jim... (I like your pics and their size
> and simple bg and do similar things myself)
>
> dorayme

Thanks you for your very thorough reply.
Various bodies moan about frames so when I saw this:
http://www.nvu.com/demos/frames/frameSimulate.html
it got me to thinking. Not a thing that happens often.;o)

I got 'so far' but could not get three panels in the arrangement I
currently use. I cannot work out how to get the boxes side by side rather
than one above the other.
I understand your comment about the home button in a frame in its own, but
if I move it to the main frame it becomes a positioning problem if the page
is displayed on 800 x 600 which I'm sure happens a lot of the time. Then
WHAT buttons do I have, 'home' and 'next' or 'home', 'next' and 'back' OR
only 'home' and so enforce use of the thumbnails every time?

Every picture does have its own html page, and before using frames these
were accessed from a page like my home page, with 'home', 'next' and
'previous' buttons. However that forces the reader to view the whole
sequence or keep returning to the thumbnails page.

--
Jim
Tyneside UK

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