Posted by Jake on 10/03/05 12:25

In message <DoZ%e.147600$dP1.504788@newsc.telia.net>, Luigi Donatello
Asero <jaggillarfotboll@telia.com> writes
>
>"Jake" <jake@gododdin.demon.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
>news:Yd1fEMLBiFQDFwlF@gododdin.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <GS1Ye.34315$d5.189676@newsb.telia.net>, Luigi Donatello
>> Asero <jaggillarfotboll@telia.com> writes
>> >I know that my website
>> >https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
[Snip]
>
>> On entering the site, I clicked on 'English' and was taken to the
>> introduction page:
>>
>> http://www.gododdin.demon.co.uk/newg/LUIGI01X.JPG (94k)
>>
>>
>> Things to note:
>>
>> (1) Good use of headings for navigation.
>
>Fine.
>
>> (2) The menus have no separators between the links,
>
>What do you mean by "separators"?
>
Http://www.w3.org/WAI/wcag-curric/sam82-0.htm


>which means that
>> they are going to be read as a long sequence of words, rather than a
>> selection of individual entries. This doesn't make the entries
>> completely inaccessible (as they can be extracted from a 'list of
>> links') but would be much more accessible with separators -- or as
>> lists.
>
>I thought I had made unordered lists, actually.

Example:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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<div class="subsection" id="interior-decoration-and-presents">

<h2>Interior decoration and presents</h2>

<a href="underconstruction">Swedish furniture</a>

<a href="underconstruction.html">Articles of glass</a>
<a href="underconstruction.html">Bracelets</a>
<a href="underconstruction.html">Necklaces</a>
</div>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------

No ....... no list here.

>
>> (3) Although I entered an 'English-version' page, I can still hear the
>> occasional incomprehensible words and phrases: Sok, Afterstall, etc.
>
>Ok.
>
>> I wouldn't expect to hear these.
>
>You are right. I am going to correct this later.
>
>> (4) Where you have words or phrases in a language other than English,
>> you should mark them up with the appropriate 'lang' entry to ensure
>> those AT UAs that can do so, will speak them correctly.
>
>Should I use the <lang> attribute for that?

Yes.

>> (5) You have a sentence in German. Is it relevant? If so, what does it
>> mean?
>
>
>Where? After which words in English?
>You wrote an image file but it is not very easy for me to read it because
>the text which is shown is little ( and I am tired too)

http://www.gododdin.demon.co.uk/newg/GER01X.JPG
>
>> (6) As others have pointed out, I'm not sure that many people would
>> appreciate the 'php version' or 'html' version .... and why they should
>> make a choice.
>
>This is a strategic choice due more to problems which have to do with the
>construction of the website itself.

The average visitor doesn't know, and doesn't care.

>Some pages have only a version.
>
>> (7) I'm not sure what the 'Please choose you language' section is there
>> for, as I entered the page having selected 'English'.
>
>That is because I do not know from which page the user is coming.
>He may have found the english page first but be more fluent in another
>language

Then put the links into the page to ensure they're positioned
(logically) at the end of the page. I.e. They're the last things heard
-- so that they don't take away attention from the rest of the page.
>
>> (8) At some stage, you should get your text checked by a native English
>> speaker as the content, although comprehensible, contains phraseology
>> alien to English speakers ;-)
>
>Some examples?
>There may be cases where some specialistic words are known only to people
>who are specifically interested in a certain sector....
>Also, I only have a one-man business so I cannot afford spending much money
>and I have to try to do myself as much as I can
>
>
>> Let me know if you want me to look at the other pages.
>
>You may do it if you want to but please, take into account that most english
>pages
>are under construction.
>There are much more pages in Swedish and Italian which are already
>available.

BTW. There seem to be problems with the 'Search Engine' ... I'll have a
closer look.

Regards.

--
Jake (jake@gododdin.demon.co.uk -- just a 'spam trap' mail address)

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