Posted by Travis Newbury on 10/19/05 15:17

Andy Dingley wrote:

> In the mid-90s (pre-Web commerce) I worked on M$oft tools. Big systems -
> big server farms of SQL and DCOM. In '97 I went into ASP from the first
> launch. Around 2000 though I was fed up with M$oft's trampling of
> standards (particularly SOAP) and I didn't like how .NET or BizTalk were
> shaping up. So I switched to Java.

I took a very similar journey (though it started in 81 with COBOL), but
mine ended up with Flash for application development. I too, have left
Microsoft development and have never turned back. (I still write a few
specialty application in VB and/or VB.net but only to allows the Flash
to integrate with the OS)


> Now what do I do if an ASP contract comes up? I've got plenty of ASP,
> I've got huge past experience with DCOM that's still very useful for a
> big M$ back-end. But any time I do more ASP it makes me less of a "Java
> guy" and more back towards being a M$oft peon....

I turn down recuiters looking or VC++ or .net development all the time.
I turn them down for similar reasons. I am a Flash/graphics guy now
NOT a VC or Vb developer.

> If there's a new Java
> buzzword around (Struts was probably the most recent) then the
> recruiters will be looking for that in the near future and it's much
> more important for me to get some visibility with it...

Corporations (especially learning services and training) are making a
HUGE paradym change moving to Flash. And the buzz words are flying...

> It's not about what anyone wants, it's about what they _need_. I know
> what they need, they frequently don't.

Do you take the time to understand their business? (I mean really
learn it so you truely DO know their needs)

We are not un-alike. As a matter of fact, I think most in this group
have enough common sense to know that there are no absolutes. (though
you would not know it from reading this group)

<flash back>
I remeber someone named Jim (from spain), about 3 years ago was a HUGE
poster and a HUGE advocate of never using Javascript for anything
essensial. After looking at one of the websites he created (worked
on) I questionsed him via email why when he was such a non-JS advocate,
why did his website use Javascript for essensial items.

His reply was "Becuase that is what the customer wanted, even after I
told them the reasons not to have it."
</flashback>

Common sense is the key.

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-=tn=-

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