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Posted by Jake on 12/20/05 19:24
In message <VKCdneg3XKmr8jreRVn-pg@adelphia.com>, Rob McAninch
<rob_13@excite.com> writes
>Jake>:
>> In message <MvCdnbj31q3xsjveRVn-hg@adelphia.com>, Rob McAninch
>><rob_13@excite.com> writes
>
>>> Show me a framed site that has good usability (compared to a site
>>>that doesn't use frames but similar amount of
>>>information/interaction), I won't ask for "very good".
>>>
>>>
>> Alan Wood's site "Compendium of Pesticide Common Names" has always
>>seemed like an excellent example to me:
>> http://www.hclrss.demon.co.uk/index_cn_frame.html
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>I can't bookmark anything, or 'easily' reference a given entry.
2 things:
(a) You can bookmark the context ...... if you're an IE user (and that's
9 out of 10 visitors): 'Favorites' --> 'Add to Favorites'. Other (more
recent) browsers don't consider this facility to be important enough to
be worth implementing.
(b) From a useability point of view, the bookmarking of a context on
this site isn't really going to save you anything, is it?
>Two important and basic usability requirements for any web site;
>especially one of a reference style.
As above.
>Of course I can make a direct link to say:
>http://www.hclrss.demon.co.uk/acethion.html
Indeed.
>Or I try the 'no frames' link, but as soon as I navigate away I end up
>back in the frames.
>
>Consider:
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/A.html
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>For which there's also a framed version,
Yes -- the frames version is much easier to use (even if there's no
<!doctype> on the frameset page ;-)
>but I can easily navigate with either method and choose to forget the
>framed version exists if I want, since it has the same inherent
>usability problems of any framed site.
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/frames.html
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>I forgot this page earlier in the thread (dolt!):
>http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil
You haven't this time -- but you have forgotten to warn people to take
the batteries out of their bogosity meters before opening ;-)
>
Regards.
--
Jake (jake@gododdin.demon.co.uk -- just a 'spam trap' mail address)
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