Posted by Len Philpot on 12/31/05 00:48

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<5ojar1tppbjd73hdhn8g0frs84eaoc678u@news.spartanicus.utvinternet.ie>,
invalid@invalid.invalid says...

> >How? (see ** below, though for the conditions)
>
> > ** That is, without scripting, SSI, etc.
>
> Again: preprocessor, S&R, building static files locally using a
> database.

Maybe I can approach it from the other end to clarify my constraints:
How to do it with _only_ (X)HTML and CSS. How's that?


> >The way I see it, here's how it stands :
> >
> > Frames CSS
> >
> >Split view Yes Yes
> >Static/scrolling Yes Partially *
>
> You are blaming CSS for not providing fixed positioning, this is
> nonsense, blame the OS component or provide a work around for IE using
> another technology.

Not at all - In fact, the part you snipped :

>> * IE doesn't support position: fixed, so that's an issue.

lays the blame, if you want to call it that, on IE and not on CSS. I've
personally stopped using IE, but I realize that most haven't, so I have
to at least consider its influence on things.


> >Single source Yes No **
>
> Frames using multiple source files.

Let's see - I can have the same nav code repeated x times for x pages
and have to manually update it each change, or I can (functionally)
"import" it once for the nav frame and that's it. Seems simpler to me,
aside from any other issues.


> >another argument in favor of frames (which I personally don't care for,
> >but some users might) is that frames _can_ be made to be resizable.
>
> If by that you mean that a user can resize a pane by dragging a border,
> you can do that with CSS layouts to by using JS. But a CSS pane layout
> that needs to be resized in that manner has been poorly constructed,
> there should be no need for that. IIRC frames cannot be sized to scale
> to the user's font setting which makes the option to drag frame borders
> a necessity, fortunately CSS layouts can and should scale to the user's
> font setting.

Doesn't giving the user the ability to resize the frame mesh with the
"what the designer wants isn't important, it what the user wants that's
important" philosophy? ;-) At any rate, I don't personally care for
resizable frames (which I stated).

It seems to me that we're getting into a "toma(y)to / toma(h)to"
discussion here that could end up generating more heat than light.
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