Posted by noone on 03/21/06 04:19

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> noone wrote:
>
>> Scott wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone refer me to a good hosting provider? I'm looking for a
>>> reseller plan with PHP 5, MySql 5, 24 x 7 support, and most
>>> importantly, a solid uptime record.
>>>
>>> Customer referrals only, please.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> just curious - but why not host it yourself? A good PC with Linux and
>> a battery-backup unit and a BUSINESS DSL or Cable account does the
>> trick. Then you are not at the mercy of the provider. I have an
>> OpenVMS and Linux server that has been running via DSL for 7+ years
>> now - via Dynamic DNS no less... (DHCP IP address).
>>
>>
>>
> Noone:
>
> 1. Many cable/dsl providers do not allow web hosting on their systems,
> even with a business line.
> 2. Upstream speed is typically much lower than downstream - ok for a
> browser but not a server
> 3. Even if they are the same, no cable/dsl provider provides the same
> speed as any competent data center.
> 4. No backup links.
> 5. No backup generators
> 6. No one to restart the site should it crash when you're not home (or
> worse yet, just left on a two week vacation),
> 7. The hosting company maintains the servers (applies patches, etc.),
> saving me time.
> 8. Many mail users are filtering email from DHCP addresses due to SPAM
> problems (open relays)
>
> Need I keep going?

I understand all of these and all are valid. Unless you are expecting
hundred of hits/minute most DSL/Cable connections are more than
sufficient. The downside of a hosting service is that you have no
control over their systems.


>
> I would NEVER host it myself on a cable/dsl connection, even if my ISP
> allowed it. A good data center results in more faster speeds, higher
> uptime and in general a more reliable service. And if my time is worth
> anything at all, it saves me money. The cost of hosting for a month
> doesn't pay for 5 minutes of my time. And I could easily spend more an
> hour or two each month just researching patches and maintaining the system.
>
> Scott,

If you run a real O/S (like OpenVMS) Patches are few and far between. :)
IIRC, there have been no security related CERTS for the OpenVMS
operating system for more than 10 years (1994 seems to come to mind)
There were couple patches on Apache (I think) but only theoretical -
nothing that ever got hacked...

Square that with the hundreds on Windows and Linux in just the last year.

....will they ever learn..oh.. will they ever learn...

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