Posted by frizzle on 10/02/69 11:44

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> frizzle wrote:
> > Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >
> >>frizzle wrote:
> >>
> >>>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>frizzle wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>frizzle wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:55:14 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>>>>>><jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Standard (DW created files/dirs) have user 'domainname', permissions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>'rwx r-x r-x ',
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Ftp app uploaded (with chmod 777) have user 'apache', permissions 'rw-
> >>>>>>>>>>>>--- --- '
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Is there a possibility to upload files via PHP without Chmodding, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>keep the same group / permissions on uploaded files as those uploaded
> >>>>>>>>>>>with, say, DreamWeaver or WS_FTP ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>(E.g. with ftp_put() wich i can't seem to get working.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Only if you can ftp in as the web server.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>It depends on the ftp server, actually. Our ftp server correctly sets
> >>>>>>>>>the permissions for you when you push. Seems your ISP has something
> >>>>>>>>>set incorrectly.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>No, he was asking how to upload files with PHP - not with FTP.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>>>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Sorry, kind of lost it here; is it possible to FTP via PHP w/o any
> >>>>>>>chmodding etc.
> >>>>>>>So i could mail a zipfile to a client, tell them to unpack it and
> >>>>>>>upload it, and
> >>>>>>>have the upload script up and running ... ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Frizzle,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>No, you can't upload via PHP. FTP is a system service, just as telnet, ssh and
> >>>>>>web server are.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>When you ftp a file to the server, the owner of the file is the userid who
> >>>>>>uploaded the file (signed into ftp). But when you upload via PHP, you're using
> >>>>>>the web server, and the owner is the userid of the server itself.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>>>>>==================
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ok, thanks.
> >>>>>Not to go on and on about this, but the other thing i asked is
> >>>>>impossible as well then?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "So i could mail a zipfile to a client, tell them to unpack it and
> >>>>>upload it,
> >>>>> and have the upload script up and running ... ?"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>It's easy to ftp or to upload via PHP. Both work quite well (unless the
> >>>>server's configuration is screwed up). It's when you try to mix the two you
> >>>>start running into permission problems and need to chmod.
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>==================
> >>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>>>Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>>>==================
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>owkaaaaayyyy, i never realized ftp and uploading aren't the same
> >>>thing...
> >>>I don't need to mix them, i need a script to upload files, wich can
> >>>prefferably
> >>>run without any chmodding etc.
> >>>
> >>>Frizzle.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Ok, you just need to ensure you have the original directory permissions set
> >>properly, then. In a typical installation the directory would be owned by the
> >>webserver's userid with permissions of 755.
> >>
> >>And I hope I didn't confuse you. You can upload via HTTP, or with the ftp PUT
> >>command. In either case the file ends up on the server. But how it gets there
> >>is much different.
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>==================
> >>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>Jerry Stuckle
> >>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>==================
> >
> >
> > When i create a new folder, either via Plesk, Dreamweaver or WS_FTP,
> > folders are standard chmodded 755.
> > That should be allright then ...
> >
> > Frizzle.
> >
>
> *Should be* is the key. If your host has things set ip properly, then yes you
> should be OK. But if not...
>
> And I'm not sure about Plesk, but I know DreamWeaver and WS_FTP both use ftp to
> transfer files. I suspect Plesk does, also.
>
>
> --
> ==================
> Remove the "x" from my email address
> Jerry Stuckle
> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> jstucklex@attglobal.net
> ==================

Well, ok, but where should i focus now to build a script to upload
files to my server?
FTP, or an other file transfer method?
It would be ideal if i could also create / delete folders ...

Frizzle.

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