Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 11/18/88 11:44

frizzle wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:55:14 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>>>>>><jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Standard (DW created files/dirs) have user 'domainname', permissions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>'rwx r-x r-x ',
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ftp app uploaded (with chmod 777) have user 'apache', permissions 'rw-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>--- --- '
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Is there a possibility to upload files via PHP without Chmodding, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>keep the same group / permissions on uploaded files as those uploaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>with, say, DreamWeaver or WS_FTP ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>(E.g. with ftp_put() wich i can't seem to get working.)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>Only if you can ftp in as the web server.
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>>>>>>>>>>>It depends on the ftp server, actually. Our ftp server correctly sets
>>>>>>>>>>>the permissions for you when you push. Seems your ISP has something
>>>>>>>>>>>set incorrectly.
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>>>>>>>>>>No, he was asking how to upload files with PHP - not with FTP.
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
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>>>>>>>>>Sorry, kind of lost it here; is it possible to FTP via PHP w/o any
>>>>>>>>>chmodding etc.
>>>>>>>>>So i could mail a zipfile to a client, tell them to unpack it and
>>>>>>>>>upload it, and
>>>>>>>>>have the upload script up and running ... ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
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>>>>>>>>Frizzle,
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>>>>>>>>No, you can't upload via PHP. FTP is a system service, just as telnet, ssh and
>>>>>>>>web server are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>When you ftp a file to the server, the owner of the file is the userid who
>>>>>>>>uploaded the file (signed into ftp). But when you upload via PHP, you're using
>>>>>>>>the web server, and the owner is the userid of the server itself.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
>>>>>>>>==================
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ok, thanks.
>>>>>>>Not to go on and on about this, but the other thing i asked is
>>>>>>>impossible as well then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "So i could mail a zipfile to a client, tell them to unpack it and
>>>>>>>upload it,
>>>>>>> and have the upload script up and running ... ?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Frizzle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's easy to ftp or to upload via PHP. Both work quite well (unless the
>>>>>>server's configuration is screwed up). It's when you try to mix the two you
>>>>>>start running into permission problems and need to chmod.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
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>>>>>owkaaaaayyyy, i never realized ftp and uploading aren't the same
>>>>>thing...
>>>>>I don't need to mix them, i need a script to upload files, wich can
>>>>>prefferably
>>>>>run without any chmodding etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>Frizzle.
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>>>>Ok, you just need to ensure you have the original directory permissions set
>>>>properly, then. In a typical installation the directory would be owned by the
>>>>webserver's userid with permissions of 755.
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>>>>And I hope I didn't confuse you. You can upload via HTTP, or with the ftp PUT
>>>>command. In either case the file ends up on the server. But how it gets there
>>>>is much different.
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>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
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>>>When i create a new folder, either via Plesk, Dreamweaver or WS_FTP,
>>>folders are standard chmodded 755.
>>>That should be allright then ...
>>>
>>>Frizzle.
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>>*Should be* is the key. If your host has things set ip properly, then yes you
>>should be OK. But if not...
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>>And I'm not sure about Plesk, but I know DreamWeaver and WS_FTP both use ftp to
>>transfer files. I suspect Plesk does, also.
>>
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>>--
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>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>Jerry Stuckle
>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
>>==================
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>
> Well, ok, but where should i focus now to build a script to upload
> files to my server?
> FTP, or an other file transfer method?
> It would be ideal if i could also create / delete folders ...
>
> Frizzle.
>


Frizzle,

It depends on how you want to do things. If you're going to be the only one
uploading, you can do ftp or http uploads. If you have users who may not be
familiar with ftp, you should do http uploads.

The downside of http uploads is you can't synchronize files between your local
copy and the website with products like Dreamweaver.

You can create and delete directories in PHP also, assuming your host hasn't
disabled these functions and you have the appropriate permissions. So that's
not a problem.

It's all in how you want to maintain your site.


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