Posted by frizzle on 10/09/04 11:45

Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> frizzle wrote:
> > Jerry Stuckle wrote:
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> >>frizzle wrote:
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> >>>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
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> >>>>frizzle wrote:
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> >>>>>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
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> >>>>>>frizzle wrote:
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> >>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>frizzle wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>>frizzle wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:55:14 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>><jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Standard (DW created files/dirs) have user 'domainname', permissions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>'rwx r-x r-x ',
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ftp app uploaded (with chmod 777) have user 'apache', permissions 'rw-
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>--- --- '
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Is there a possibility to upload files via PHP without Chmodding, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>keep the same group / permissions on uploaded files as those uploaded
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with, say, DreamWeaver or WS_FTP ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(E.g. with ftp_put() wich i can't seem to get working.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Only if you can ftp in as the web server.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>It depends on the ftp server, actually. Our ftp server correctly sets
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>the permissions for you when you push. Seems your ISP has something
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>set incorrectly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>No, he was asking how to upload files with PHP - not with FTP.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>>>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Sorry, kind of lost it here; is it possible to FTP via PHP w/o any
> >>>>>>>>>>>chmodding etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>So i could mail a zipfile to a client, tell them to unpack it and
> >>>>>>>>>>>upload it, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>have the upload script up and running ... ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Frizzle,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>No, you can't upload via PHP. FTP is a system service, just as telnet, ssh and
> >>>>>>>>>>web server are.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>When you ftp a file to the server, the owner of the file is the userid who
> >>>>>>>>>>uploaded the file (signed into ftp). But when you upload via PHP, you're using
> >>>>>>>>>>the web server, and the owner is the userid of the server itself.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>>>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>>>>>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Ok, thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>Not to go on and on about this, but the other thing i asked is
> >>>>>>>>>impossible as well then?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"So i could mail a zipfile to a client, tell them to unpack it and
> >>>>>>>>>upload it,
> >>>>>>>>> and have the upload script up and running ... ?"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>It's easy to ftp or to upload via PHP. Both work quite well (unless the
> >>>>>>>>server's configuration is screwed up). It's when you try to mix the two you
> >>>>>>>>start running into permission problems and need to chmod.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>>>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>owkaaaaayyyy, i never realized ftp and uploading aren't the same
> >>>>>>>thing...
> >>>>>>>I don't need to mix them, i need a script to upload files, wich can
> >>>>>>>prefferably
> >>>>>>>run without any chmodding etc.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ok, you just need to ensure you have the original directory permissions set
> >>>>>>properly, then. In a typical installation the directory would be owned by the
> >>>>>>webserver's userid with permissions of 755.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>And I hope I didn't confuse you. You can upload via HTTP, or with the ftp PUT
> >>>>>>command. In either case the file ends up on the server. But how it gets there
> >>>>>>is much different.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>==================
> >>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>>>>>==================
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>When i create a new folder, either via Plesk, Dreamweaver or WS_FTP,
> >>>>>folders are standard chmodded 755.
> >>>>>That should be allright then ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Frizzle.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>*Should be* is the key. If your host has things set ip properly, then yes you
> >>>>should be OK. But if not...
> >>>>
> >>>>And I'm not sure about Plesk, but I know DreamWeaver and WS_FTP both use ftp to
> >>>>transfer files. I suspect Plesk does, also.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>==================
> >>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>>>Jerry Stuckle
> >>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>>>==================
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Well, ok, but where should i focus now to build a script to upload
> >>>files to my server?
> >>>FTP, or an other file transfer method?
> >>>It would be ideal if i could also create / delete folders ...
> >>>
> >>>Frizzle.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>Frizzle,
> >>
> >>It depends on how you want to do things. If you're going to be the only one
> >>uploading, you can do ftp or http uploads. If you have users who may not be
> >>familiar with ftp, you should do http uploads.
> >>
> >>The downside of http uploads is you can't synchronize files between your local
> >>copy and the website with products like Dreamweaver.
> >>
> >>You can create and delete directories in PHP also, assuming your host hasn't
> >>disabled these functions and you have the appropriate permissions. So that's
> >>not a problem.
> >>
> >>It's all in how you want to maintain your site.
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>==================
> >>Remove the "x" from my email address
> >>Jerry Stuckle
> >>JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >>jstucklex@attglobal.net
> >>==================
> >
> >
> > It's meant for a user based site; users with certain priviledges are
> > allowed to add news and files to the site. No synchronizing
> > needed. Mostly images and mp3's, maybe some docs etc.
> >
> > Frizzle.
> >
>
> In that case I would suggest http uploads.
>
> Maybe the easiest way is to have an admin page where you can let PHP create the
> root directory(s) you wish, then let the main part of the site upload into these
> directories and, if necessary, create new directories.
>
> If the webserver creates them it will be the owner, also.
>
> --
> ==================
> Remove the "x" from my email address
> Jerry Stuckle
> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> jstucklex@attglobal.net
> ==================

Hmm, hope i'm not back at the start (the chmodding part) i get an
error:

Warning: move_uploaded_file(): SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The
script whose uid is 10008 is not allowed to access / owned by uid 0 in
/home/httpd/vhosts/host.com/httpdocs/test/admin/ftp2.php on line 17

Here is some more debugging info:Array
(
[userfile] => Array
(
[name] => photo.jpg
[type] => image/jpeg
[tmp_name] => /tmp/phpejdmGr
[error] => 0
[size] => 11469
)

)


Does this have something to do with the Chmodding again ? (Please tell
me it doesn't...)

Frizzle.

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