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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 04/10/06 01:13
frizzle wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:55:14 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Standard (DW created files/dirs) have user 'domainname', permissions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>'rwx r-x r-x ',
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ftp app uploaded (with chmod 777) have user 'apache', permissions 'rw-
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Is there a possibility to upload files via PHP without Chmodding, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>keep the same group / permissions on uploaded files as those uploaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with, say, DreamWeaver or WS_FTP ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(E.g. with ftp_put() wich i can't seem to get working.)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Only if you can ftp in as the web server.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It depends on the ftp server, actually. Our ftp server correctly sets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the permissions for you when you push. Seems your ISP has something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>set incorrectly.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, he was asking how to upload files with PHP - not with FTP.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>--
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>==================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sorry, kind of lost it here; is it possible to FTP via PHP w/o any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>chmodding etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>So i could mail a zipfile to a client, tell them to unpack it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>upload it, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>have the upload script up and running ... ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>No, you can't upload via PHP. FTP is a system service, just as telnet, ssh and
>>>>>>>>>>>>web server are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>When you ftp a file to the server, the owner of the file is the userid who
>>>>>>>>>>>>uploaded the file (signed into ftp). But when you upload via PHP, you're using
>>>>>>>>>>>>the web server, and the owner is the userid of the server itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>>==================
>>>>>>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>==================
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Ok, thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>Not to go on and on about this, but the other thing i asked is
>>>>>>>>>>>impossible as well then?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"So i could mail a zipfile to a client, tell them to unpack it and
>>>>>>>>>>>upload it,
>>>>>>>>>>>and have the upload script up and running ... ?"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
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>>>>>>>>>>It's easy to ftp or to upload via PHP. Both work quite well (unless the
>>>>>>>>>>server's configuration is screwed up). It's when you try to mix the two you
>>>>>>>>>>start running into permission problems and need to chmod.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>==================
>>>>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
>>>>>>>>>>==================
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>owkaaaaayyyy, i never realized ftp and uploading aren't the same
>>>>>>>>>thing...
>>>>>>>>>I don't need to mix them, i need a script to upload files, wich can
>>>>>>>>>prefferably
>>>>>>>>>run without any chmodding etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Frizzle.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ok, you just need to ensure you have the original directory permissions set
>>>>>>>>properly, then. In a typical installation the directory would be owned by the
>>>>>>>>webserver's userid with permissions of 755.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And I hope I didn't confuse you. You can upload via HTTP, or with the ftp PUT
>>>>>>>>command. In either case the file ends up on the server. But how it gets there
>>>>>>>>is much different.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>==================
>>>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
>>>>>>>>==================
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When i create a new folder, either via Plesk, Dreamweaver or WS_FTP,
>>>>>>>folders are standard chmodded 755.
>>>>>>>That should be allright then ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Frizzle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*Should be* is the key. If your host has things set ip properly, then yes you
>>>>>>should be OK. But if not...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And I'm not sure about Plesk, but I know DreamWeaver and WS_FTP both use ftp to
>>>>>>transfer files. I suspect Plesk does, also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>==================
>>>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
>>>>>>==================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, ok, but where should i focus now to build a script to upload
>>>>>files to my server?
>>>>>FTP, or an other file transfer method?
>>>>>It would be ideal if i could also create / delete folders ...
>>>>>
>>>>>Frizzle.
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>>>>Frizzle,
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>>>>It depends on how you want to do things. If you're going to be the only one
>>>>uploading, you can do ftp or http uploads. If you have users who may not be
>>>>familiar with ftp, you should do http uploads.
>>>>
>>>>The downside of http uploads is you can't synchronize files between your local
>>>>copy and the website with products like Dreamweaver.
>>>>
>>>>You can create and delete directories in PHP also, assuming your host hasn't
>>>>disabled these functions and you have the appropriate permissions. So that's
>>>>not a problem.
>>>>
>>>>It's all in how you want to maintain your site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>==================
>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>>>Jerry Stuckle
>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
>>>>==================
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>>>It's meant for a user based site; users with certain priviledges are
>>>allowed to add news and files to the site. No synchronizing
>>>needed. Mostly images and mp3's, maybe some docs etc.
>>>
>>>Frizzle.
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>>In that case I would suggest http uploads.
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>>Maybe the easiest way is to have an admin page where you can let PHP create the
>>root directory(s) you wish, then let the main part of the site upload into these
>>directories and, if necessary, create new directories.
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>>If the webserver creates them it will be the owner, also.
>>
>>--
>>==================
>>Remove the "x" from my email address
>>Jerry Stuckle
>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
>>jstucklex@attglobal.net
>>==================
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> Hmm, hope i'm not back at the start (the chmodding part) i get an
> error:
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> Warning: move_uploaded_file(): SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The
> script whose uid is 10008 is not allowed to access / owned by uid 0 in
> /home/httpd/vhosts/host.com/httpdocs/test/admin/ftp2.php on line 17
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> Here is some more debugging info:Array
> (
> [userfile] => Array
> (
> [name] => photo.jpg
> [type] => image/jpeg
> [tmp_name] => /tmp/phpejdmGr
> [error] => 0
> [size] => 11469
> )
>
> )
>
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> Does this have something to do with the Chmodding again ? (Please tell
> me it doesn't...)
>
> Frizzle.
>
I have no idea - don't know what code you're using.
But it looks like you're trying to access the system root directory ('/') -
which is owned by root. You can't do it.
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
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