Reply to Re: seperator instead of a comma for listed items in DB?

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Posted by news@celticbear.com on 04/17/06 22:09

Sjoerd wrote:
> news@celticbear.com wrote:
> > need to have DB fields in mySQL that
> > will have lists of values
>
> Typically, one would use escape characters. For example, | would be
> used to seperate two fields. A literal | would be escaped: \|. This
> makes it possible to use the seperation character in the data.
>
> Another, probably better option, would be to make a seperate table.
> Instead of storing the ingredients seperated by a character like this:
> 1, Chinese Chicken, chicken|salt|pepper|mushrooms
> Think about making a ingredients table and storing it there:
>
> [Recipes]
> 1, Chinese Chicken
> 2, Meatloaf
>
> [Ingredients]
> 1, chicken
> 1, salt
> 1, pepper
> 1, mushrooms
> 2, meat
> 2, loaf
>
> This makes it easy to search and it is more logical from a DB point of
> view.

Well, since you brought it up, speaking of the DB, that's kind of what
I had in mind, but, differemt.
The tbl_ingredients would have two columns, ID and NAME like:
1, garlic
2, chicken
3, pepper
4, salt
etc...

Then the tbl_recipes would have colums like:
ID, NAME, INGREDIENTS, MEASUREMENTS, NOTES
with data like:
1, Chinese Chicken, 1|2|3|4, 1 clove|1 lbs. breast| 1 tsp.| 1 T., more
stuff here....

Where the ingredients would be the ingredient's ID in a CSV, (but
obviously using something other than a comma,).
That's the best I could come up with to be able to have a list of
unknown and constantly changing number of ingredients that would save
space in the table.

The problem I'm seeing with your suggestion is that the [ingredients]
table would have a lot of redundant info.
Every recipe that required pepper would have a row with a recipie ID
and a value of "garlic," which would be repeated in the database n
number of times.

I suppose of course, if the database remains small, that amount of
redundant data isn't going to hurt performance at all.... and would
possibly be easier to manage....

Thanks for the reply and the feedback!!
-Liam

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