Posted by Michael Laplante on 01/04/21 11:46

"Jose" <teacherjh@aol.nojunk.com> wrote in message
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>>>It is good advice to be rid of tricky absolute positioning if you
>>>> can do without it.

> Because absolute positioning depends on the user having the same settings
> that you have.

I essentially designed my site for 800x600 px screensize and up, using a
<div align=center> container which keeps everything relative to the screen.
I've checked out some award-winning websites and this is technique seems
common. So the absolute positioning is only relative to the container not
the screen.

Refs:
http://www.aawebmasters.com/
http://www.webaward.org/

However, a picture = 1K words. Can you give me a URL for a site that uses
only relative positioning so I can study it? Better yet if I can see the
stylesheet behind it. Something that mixes a variety of staggered containers
with images and text among them. I can't visualize how it can be done.

> She can't see very well so she has increased her default font size (making
> a mess of your pixel perfect layout).

I've never come a across a site of any sophistication that can't be "messed
up" by increasing font size, particulary in Gecko browsers so I don't think
this observation is valid. (Unless you're sticking with simple columns which
isn't what I'd call sophisticated.) But again, showing me a URL to prove
your point would be educational.

>> What do you mean by "breaks badly?' Lots of pages -- even ones that
>> validate -- break badly when text is enlarged.
>
> ... because they are badly designed. Pages can validate perfectly and be
> awful.

Well, once again, I re-iterate I've been to award-winning websites that
"break" with enlarged text so I don't think you can attribute them to bad
design. Otherwise, the definition of good design simply becomes any website
simple enough that it doesn't break. (circular logic and all. . .)

But once again, show me a URL to a reasonably sophisticated website that
validates, uses a good mix of graphics and text in a variety of staggered
containers and I'll check it out.

>> Any suggestions re: my original request for [printer?] margins?
>
> You can't do it (reliably). If you want layout on the printed page, use a
> LINK to a .pdf version of your page.

I think you may be right here.

Thanks for responding with some meaningful comments. If you can feed me some
URLs that illustrate your points I'd like to check them out.

HTML novice,

M

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