Posted by Chaddy2222 on 05/09/06 06:54

Michael Laplante wrote:
> "Jim Moe" <jmm-list.AXSPAMGN@sohnen-moe.com> wrote in message
> news:xaKdnS8GE_Y5BMLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > Michael Laplante wrote:
>
> > Accessibility and fluid design are not bound to each other. Fixed width
> > designs are as accessible as fluid designs.
>
> I think this is a case of semantics. I'm defining accessibilty as used by
> many of the regulars here define it. Accessbility = fluid design. Me, I
> agree with you.
No...... Fluid design = good design!.....

>
> That is the beauty of
> > separating content and presentation.
> > See <http://www.csszengarden.com/>. The HTML code is a bit contrived to
> > allow the presentation of CSS possibilities. But as you can see, one HTML
> > file, many presentations.
>
> But not "fluid" in the sense that if you re-size the windows, re-size fonts,
> for a particular design the layouts don't work. There has been a decision
> made to trade off fluidity for aesthetics. For that reason, others here
> insist that site is not "accessible" because those individual designs only
> work in a narrow range of variables. . . THEY certainly equate accessibility
> with fluidity. Go pick on them! :)

>
> > So your layout design choice is to emulate a print brochure
>
> Not quite. For commercial reasons, I'm making a decision to put make my site
> less "fluid" for the sake of image branding -- very important to
> manufacturers of luxury autos. In fact, the marketing departments would
> probably impose a lot of those decisions on me, e.t. colour schemes, logos,
> size of logos, fonts, etc. I'll design in as much fluidity as I can within
> those limits but fluidity takes a back seat to other considerations.
Ahhh, it really doesn't matter what the size of a logo is, the idea is
to optomize graphics for the web, not the other way around.

> (Whether that makes it less accessible is debatable -- which, I think is
> your point. I personally don't disagree with you but many others here would
> judging from popular sentiment.)
Put it this way, if you are imposing a particular layout on people,
that can't be changed, without breaking the sites apearence, then you
are doing something wrong.

>
> In my trade college scenario, branding has minimal significance so I
> probably have much more free reign with respect to fluid design.
Fluid design has nothing to do with it really, if the group wanted you
to design them a site, then you could make it fluid without messing up
their design quite easily.

>
> For a personal website, where there are no commercial considerations, I can
> do whatever I choose because it's only me that I have to please.
>
> > Again, you confuse the two aspects, fluidity and accessibility.
>
> I think they are separate too. My initial position was predicated on the
> ng's popular definitions, not my personal one.
They are not really sepret, good design and accessibility go hand in
hand.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.cjb.cc

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