Posted by Jonathan N. Little on 05/17/06 18:08

Knut Krueger wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jonathan, hi Spartanicus
> sorry for the last answer, but you (Spartanicus) lined up in row with
> other guys with the words don't do this, but that's not your problem ...
>
> Ok will try to explain the demands:
> I would like to build a couple of links at the left hand side, no
> problem for me if they are in text mode only, but it is not state of the
> art and for a home page with scientific contents not acceptable (it is
> not my opinion...)
>
> |--------------------------|
> | Headlines |
> |__________________________|
> | | |
> |link | |
> |link | |
> |link | |
> |link | |
> |_______ | any type |
> | Last | of content |
> | cell | |
> | | (Data) |
> | with | |
> |back- | |
> |gound | |
> |image | |
> ----------------------------


What I see here is *not* tabular data. Headlines is not tabular data and
should not be in a table cell. It is just a section, treat it a such an
put it in a DIV, then you have the option with CSS to place it at the
top of the page, left, right, or whatever.

The links are a list, make it a list. Want it on the left, again so be
it, use CSS to style it so. Not a table. If you decide later to have the
link on the right, if done correctly you can just change the stylesheet
and voile your links are on the right! With tables as layout you MUST
redo the page.

Your example is the improper use of a table as layout. Not relying on
table for layout does not result in a boring plain text site. Many
examples on the web, my own site included.


> The pages should look like
> http://uni-regensburg.konstanze-krueger.de/
>
> but the contents of the data field is an IFrame
>
> Therefore I am able to give the bottom field with the background image a
> long heights and there will appear a second scroll bar if the contents
> is bigger than the iframe. Not very good but it works.
>
> So therefore I would like to improve the page.
> first problem I am not able to define the background image in a way that
> there is either no wall paper effect nor the image is too big or too
> small in all browser. I managed the problem with an image but not with
> an background image.
>
> So the last cell should expand automatically as big as necessary to fit
> the hole page size defined of the content of the data field,
> and the link images should meet without space.
>
> It works with width=100% but why does it not work with height=100%
>
> Jonathan, back to your answer. I missed the point, that happens, but do
> you have a suitable suggestion for this? for a couple of years everybody
> used frames for this, with the common problem: Your browser doesn't not ...
>


Frames, iframes have a whole host of problems which has been debated to
death in this news group. We now have a better way, server side includes
or server side scripting includes via PHP, Perl, ASP, ColdFusion, on
infinitum...


> Could you explain me the state of the art, or give me the link for such
> explanation. I know google ... but to find the right keywords in a
> foreign language is quite difficult and the most links of google with my
> commercial home page designers, or complete wrong newsgroup treads...

My personal dog site which I just upgraded the code and about to move to
its own domain is creative in its layout without abusing tables IMO.

http://www.littleworksstudio.com/Amberlithe

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Take care,

Jonathan
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