Posted by Bob on 05/18/06 19:46

NoNamer wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>> NoNamer wrote:
>>> Bob wrote:
>>>> Using this page
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_%28DOM%29
>>>>
>>>> I made some rather unscientific computations of the levels of DOM
>>>> (Document Object Model), ie, Javascript + CSS, support for IE 6, Opera
>>>> 7, 8 and 9 and Firefox 1.5
>>>>
>>>> Here they are:
>>>>
>>>> DOM 1 supports how many
>>>>
>>>> IE5 264 (15 more are broken)
>>>> IE6 293 (15 more are broken)
>>>> Opera 7 337 (1 is broken)
>>>> Opera 8 337 (1 is broken)
>>>> Opera 9 370 (1 is broken)
>>>> Firefox 367
>>>>
>>>> Opera 9 barely edges out Firefox for DOM 1 support, but it is basically
>>>> a tie. IE is quite a bit behind. Even Opera 7 bests it considerably.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DOM 2 supports how many
>>>>
>>>> IE5 43 (2 more are broken)
>>>> IE6 44 (2 more are broken)
>>>> Opera 7 70
>>>> Opera 8 116
>>>> Opera 9 154
>>>> Firefox 176
>>>>
>>>> Firefox definitely wins for DOM 2 support, but Opera 9 also does very
>>>> well. IE6 looks like a disaster for DOM 2. Even the older Opera 7 does
>>>> much better than IE. Even more shameful is that IE barely improved from
>>>> v5 to v6
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DOM 3 supports how many
>>>>
>>>> IE5 0
>>>> IE6 0
>>>> Opera 7 1
>>>> Opera 8 7
>>>> Opera 9 54
>>>> Firefox 19
>>>>
>>>> Although DOM 3 is very new and not supported well by browsers, Opera 9
>>>> does dramatically better than any other browser in implementing it. IE,
>>>> shamefully, has not implemented one spec, and has not improved again
>>>> between v5 and v6. Firefox does a decent job of implementing DOM 3,
>>>> considering that no browser implements much of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Totals
>>>>
>>>> IE5 307
>>>> IE6 337
>>>> Opera 7 408
>>>> Opera 8 460
>>>> Opera 9 578
>>>> Firefox 562
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the totals, Opera 9 has the best DOM support of any major browser!
>>>> Yaaaay! Firefox is quite close though. IE is horribly behind and has
>>>> barely improved from one old version to the next. Even Opera 7 is much
>>>> better than IE6. The only conclusion is that when it comes to DOM, IE is
>>>> an incredibly broken browser. The fact that 85% of the net is using this
>>>> stupid, broken browser is just disgusting.
>>>> Methods: I counted them by hand, so there may be some errors. Feel free
>>>> to recheck. I think my totals are pretty good though.
>>> I know it's not out yet, but any preliminary data for IE7?
>> Yes, I do, but not from that url. From another one, I was *really*
>> disappointed. There has been some limited progress WRT to CSS, but
>> nothing spectacular. WRT to DOM, I am not sure if there is much new at
>> all. These people like Web Standards Project (MS is now an official
>> member) who have been raving about how IE7 is so much more
>> standards-compliant appear to be horribly wrong. I was of the opinion
>> that IE7 was much better in this regard, and when I looked it up, it was
>> profoundly disappointing. Bottom line is IE7 is still dramatically
>> backwards in terms of standards implementation.
>>> I've been using it for about 2 weeks now and really like it. The zoom
>>> feature is awesome.
>> That's cool. I refuse to use IE on principle, not because it's a crappy
>> browser. After a reinstall, I used it for a couple of days intensively
>> and I had to admit it was pleasant, esp because so many pages seem to be
>> designed specifically for that browser. However, I ran without
>> antivirus, and by the end of the 2 days, I had something like 12 trojans
>> on my system!
>
> Wow... I haven't run across any bad stuff at all.
>
> Can you post a link to one of the sites that had a trojan? I would
> like to test out IE7 in this regard.

Dunno, I was surfing tons of porn sites and they gave me trojans. Mostly
the advertiser-tracking variety, not really harmful...
>

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