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Posted by Ed Mulroy on 06/08/06 17:04
> Recommendation is let the user decide where or not to open link in new
> window.
This is not a question of how one might choose to read a newspaper. The
purpose of the site is to present a vaction property to prospective tenants.
A separate window is used for off-site links is so that the property site
will remain on his screen. Prospective tenants are not particularly
computer literate. Once they leave a site a certain percentage of them will
not be able to find it again.
> Think about this, why are your links in a table at all? They are just a
> list right?
No, they are a table, a two dimensional array of items presented in an
orderly, predetermined fashion for view in computer screens with resolution
of 800x600 or more and deliberately without support for text-only, cell
phone, PDA or blind-viewer browsers.
Each attempt to do an equivalent presentation with CSS has failed in some
browsers, usually placing one of the two tables at the bottom instead of
presenting them side by side.
> You need to shake off the shackles of the table and compose the page
> semantically then style to make it appear as you wish.
I have read many things which rail on similar to "the shackles of the table"
but have not seen a viable reason for abandoning them. I am very open to
and desirous of hearing your arguments to that end.
> Google for some CSS layout tutorials.
Perhaps that would find some of these links?
http://home.nc.rr.com/emulroy/html2.htm#stylesheets
http://home.nc.rr.com/emulroy/magother.htm#blogsoft
(note that the above links are also part of my site)
.. Ed
"Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@centralva.net> wrote in message
news:46bee$44883bbe$40cba7bf$11824@NAXS.COM...
> Ed Mulroy wrote:
>> I would appreciate it if people were kind enough to suggest how I
>> might fix my page.
>>
>> I have run into difficulty while trying to migrate from HTML 4.01
>> Transitional to 4.01 Strict.
>>
>> The Transitional page and css links are:
>> http://home.nc.rr.com/emulroy/theshore.htm
>> http://home.nc.rr.com/emulroy/beach.css
>> The Strict versions are
>> http://home.nc.rr.com/emulroy/theshoreS.htm
>> http://home.nc.rr.com/emulroy/beachS.css
>>
>>
>> The HTML validator gives complaints in strict mode.
>> http://validator.w3.org/
>>
>> The 'target' word in a link like that below generates an error: (line 36)
>> <a href="the_url" target="_blank">link description</a>
>>
>> What scheme is used under 4.01 strict to specify a link be opened in a
>> new window? (please, not javascript)
>
> None, target is used with framesets
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">
>
> Recommendation is let the user decide where or not to open link in new
> window.
>>
>>
>> On line 18 I received a complaint about 'align'
>> <table align="left" width="22%" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="2">
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> those are presentational attributes that should be defined in your
> stylesheet
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/tables.html
>
>>
>> However all attempts to remove the 'align' and handle it with CSS results
>> in the right hand table being moved down the page to past the bottom of
>> the left hand menu column.
>
> Don't really see a difference except padding on table cell a bit different
> between version. Basically I think you may be trying to design with CSS
> but your mindset is still in 3.2 table layout mode.
>
> Following are not snide remarks but to encourage you to think in a
> different direction...
>
> Think about this, why are your links in a table at all? They are just a
> list right? Why are your pictures and text in a table? Is it just to hang
> them in some particular placement on the page? You need to shake off the
> shackles of the table and compose the page semantically then style to make
> it appear as you wish. Google for some CSS layout tutorials.
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