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Posted by Benjamin Niemann on 06/08/06 19:53
Ed Mulroy wrote:
>> ... tables are still the wrong choice for your purposes ...
>
> I still do not understand why that is.
HTML is about the semantics, the meaning of the document contents. TABLE
means 'tabular data' (think of Excel). Layout and design is the domain of
CSS.
>> ... But you will gain support for 'text-only, cell phone, PDA or
>> blind-viewer browsers' ...
>
> I thought that supporting them was pointless. Pages such as these have
> little value when viewed with text browsers, blind viewer browsers and
> tiny PDA or cell phone displays.
> http://home.nc.rr.com/emulroy/flrplan.htm
> http://home.nc.rr.com/emulroy/restmap.htm
> http://home.nc.rr.com/emulroy/localdir.htm
The information provided by the images can also be provided as plaintext.
(Ok, in these cases it requires addition work to provide both readable and
viewable versions of the same content.)
And I can't find a reason why people with disabilities should not be
interested in these offers (except for the fact that they cannot use the
site...).
>> ...One method is to make the sidebar 'float: left' ...
>
>> and give the content area a margin-left which is equal
>> or larger than the width of the sidebar...
>
> Unfortunately the float:left scheme does not properly present. When
> someone narrows the window, one column drops to below the other instead of
> a
> horizontal scroll bar appearing. I have not found anything in CSS which
> when the screen is narrowed will put in a horizontal scroll bar instead of
> hiding half of the page below the bottom of the screen.
I'd consider this as good behaviour. Horizontal scrolling is much more
painful than vertical scroll. My keyboard has PgUp and PgDown, but no
equivalent for left and right. And my mouse has a single scroll wheel for
up/down movement. Your equipment might be different though...
>> ... with a certain width preferably in em ..
>
> I think the pages you looked at dimension in percent but on the other
> pages
> the sidebars are dimensioned in ex. You and everyone else these days seem
> to speak of em and not of ex. Please tell me if I am wrong to use ex
> instead of em.
I'd say that ex is just as good as em. The point is not to use px and for
some reason em is more commonly used than ex.
> I am an engineer, literally someone with a pocket protector and, at least
> in
> the past, a slide rule. While I may be a bit creative with respect to
> things like bandwidth, response time and fringing capacitance I have
> little
> if any creativity of the sort needed to be a graphic designer. My web
> site
> is admittedly uninspired. I welcome any comments and greatly appreciate
> your suggestions.
Reminds me of myself ;)
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Benjamin Niemann
Email: pink at odahoda dot de
WWW: http://pink.odahoda.de/
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