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Re: Symbols charset problem

Posted by Alan J. Flavell on 06/12/06 22:34

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Philip Semanchuk wrote:

> Sid Ismail <elsid@nospam.co.za> wrote:
>
> > When the World Bridge Federation put something up, I have a problem.
> > I have complained many times, but they will not change to images. :(

Nor should they! The key part of what you were asking about, is
proper HTML4, and has been working since at least NN4.08,[1] that's
nearly a decade ago. The days of fooling around with images instead
of characters which are and have been part of HTML4 for ages is gone
and should be forgotten.

MSIE may be the only cripple still yearning for the old days, but even
that old thing is still capable of doing the job if its user shows it
just a little TLC.

> If you spend a lot of time on that site and the problem is really
> annoying to you, you might want to consider grabbing a copy of Opera.

I don't see the point in recommending a specific web browser. Pretty
much any WWW-compatible browser will do the job nowadays. As I say,
MSIE is today's cripple that needs a helping hand - but, just like the
obsolete NN4.* before it, the task is solve-able, for any reader who
has the slightest interest in the content.

> It's free, it's fast (faster than FF), has high standards compliance and
> renders the &hearts;, &spades; etc. as you would like them to.

As does pretty much any browser. I could show you these characters
working on Lynx.

> If it wasn't for Chris Pederick's Web Developer toolbar extension
> for FF, Opera might be my main browser.

You're giving the entirely unwarranted impression that Firefox (or
Moz/Seamonkey) could not do this job. That's completely wrong, as my
experience shows. What basis do you have for supposing that it can't?
I'd like to work out what you're getting wrong.

> Do that! And also address the validation and encoding issues that Alan
> Flavell pointed out. Even though they're not causing the problem here,
> they're likely to cause other problems and it is much easier to debug
> HTML quirks when you can eliminate invalid HTML and encoding as
> potential problem sources.

Indeed, good advice.

regards

[1] with NN4.08 one would have needed to code the appropriate
&#number; references instead of &spades; etc., but NN4 is past history
now.

 

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