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Posted by Michael Vilain on 12/18/56 11:50
In article <1150443806.798652.15300@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Visionary" <visionary@avlabsdesign.com> wrote:
> Now, the last 3 comments were a lot more constructive and well mannered
> compared to the first reply. I only replied to that post in the manner
> that I did because it was due. I don't understand why it would have
> offended anyone other than who it was directed towards, if anyone
> did...
>
> I'm not trying to make impressions, yet. As I said in my original post,
> I've been spreading myself too thin. Biting off more than I can chew so
> to say. I will admit, I didn't give a whole lot of detail though. Let
> me explain why.
>
> This is the first time I've posted to a group, or usenet post board.
> First time I fired it up actually. I did a search for a PHP group, and
> came across this one, with a good amount of members. I saw alot of
> helpful posts, and what appeared to be a wealth of people learning PHP
> that might like to join the AVLabs team. We're only 2 (3, though the
> 3rd is spread thin as well with personal projects) people now.
Mistake #1-newsgroups each have their own "rules" or netiquette. It's
best to read them for a while (aka "lurk") rather than post something
right away. Post something off-topic or inappropriate in a group and
get LART'ed (luser attitude readjustment tool), as you were in your
initial post. Or you could ultimately get *plonked* (killfiled or all
posts ignored). Post something considered spam and someone will report
your domain and posting host to a spam-blocking site as well as complain
to both whomever they can think of.
Would you wander into a science fiction convention room party at the
hosting hotel and hit on some young lady right away or would you wait
and observe that most of the parings were same sex (and perhaps still
approach a couple, make a clueless suggestion and wonder why you were
rebuffed)?
>
> So I figured I would post a quick note, see if anyone was interested,
> and if they were I'd go into more depth. Apparently I underestimated
> the speed and prowess of some of the more advanced members here. Or am
> I totally in the wrong place in the sense that, your all money hungry
> programmers who are replying to me from an office cubicle somewhere? If
> so, please point me in the right direction.
I'm trying to be nice because you're obviously a totally clueless
newbie--must be from marketing. Anyway, bottom line is _yes_ you are in
the wrong place for this sort of thing.
>
> As for my design skills... True they might be lacking, but I believe
> the problems anybody may have with the site is on their end. I'm not
> conforming to some public standard of white background/black text. I'm
> not aiming for blind people. I designed that site with my monitors
> brightness at 15 (out of 100) and contrast all the way up. I had over
> 30 people beta test the site and give me suggestions and critiques.
>
> It's a design team's site, and it isn't even public yet (in the sense
> that there is no active campaigning). That's not to say that the site
> doesn't meet standards:
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avlabsdesign.com%2F
>
> Now I'll go into a little more depth about what the goals of AVLabs
> are, and what projects are planned or in progress. First off, AVLabs
> isn't just made up of that one site, there are a few more under
> construction. A wiki, forums, the AVDev site as well as a store which
> is being built from the ground up, for stock photos and web templates.
>
> The AVDev site is for... Software development. Particularly game
> development. At the moment I am working on a commercial game, as well
> as my own personal game engine. One of the planned projects for AVDev
> is a webmaster tool. I won't get into that, as it would go on for hours
> before it was properly laid out on the table.
> --avdev.avlabsdesign.com--
>
> The wiki is a sort of internal tool at the moment, for AVDev. Basically
> just cataloguing links and useful information. It is being setup to be
> a public source for various development information though. That will
> come with time obviously.
> --wiki.avlabsdesign.com--
>
> The forums follow suit. Internal at the moment, but heading for a
> public release. There is still a lot of work by way of content to be
> added here, as well as all the other sections of AVLabs.
> --forum.avlabsdesign.com--
>
> I've started all this on my own, with no college education and hardly a
> dime to my name. It's all I've been working at for a long, long time.
> I've made a lot of friends, people willing to contribute to content
> when the time comes. Photographers, 2D artists (an online and printed
> comic is actually in the works as well), as well as people well as a
> couple willing investors. Willing so long as AVLabs becomes something.
>
> So I leave off, saying that I take no offense in the last few comments,
> I understand where you are coming from. Just understand that I came
> here to see if anyone was interested real quick. Admittedly I should
> have taken the time to explain myself a little better, but my thinking
> was that if someone was going to bite, they would do it fast. Or not at
> all. I'm guessing the latter is more likely, and will be moving on.
No harm, no foul. A wiccan friend of mine has a saying I particularly
like: The godess tells us something three times--the first by a tap on
the shoulder, the second by a 2x4 over the head, and the third by a MAC
truck. There is no 4th time.
I like to watch out for all the taps on the should I can. Good luck in
your endeavor.
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