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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 12/18/19 11:50
Visionary wrote:
> "I should note that this is not a paid position, though I would not
> rule
> out possible future earnings if the goals I have set for AVLabs Design
> reaches fruition."
>
> Sounds a lot different from:
>
> "Join our team - maybe you'll get paid, maybe you won't"
How so? In either case, you're inviting someone to join your team. And telling
them there probably isn't any money involved - but maybe, perhaps, there's an
off chance there might be.
>
> That's where I was stating that this wasn't a job. Not a job, but there
> is a chance that money could get involved at a later time. I'm not
> some peon asking someone to come and wash my armpits for free. I didn't
> come here to start any fights. And I didn't come here to drop a note
> and take off. I came here to try and find someone to *work* with, as a
> team on various projects.
>
The "teaser". Every week I see people wanting experienced programmers to donate
their time to some project which doesn't pay. At least you're one step above
the "we'll give you a share in the company" person. You aren't promising
something in the future.
> "And BTW, I am not a "new programmer". I have almost 40 years of
> programming
> experience. And yes, I can command a six figure salary."
>
> That's nice Jerry. I'm happy for you. And I never said you were a "new
> programmer". Just out of curiousity though, why would you be earning a
> six-figure sal and be sitting around here hasseling some (jerk?) like
> me? You should be sipping mai-tais with some hot babe chilling next to
> you. Unless of course you're giving me a hard time, while sipping on a
> mai-tai with some hot babe chilling next to you... Then I'd understand.
>
I hang around here because I enjoy helping people, that's why. But there are
also a lot of people who think newsgroups are a way to get free programming time.
I enjoy helping those who try to help themselves.
> I really don't understand what it was that I said that turned what
> seemed like a cool idea into a bad one. I can understand everyone's
> defensive action after I barked back at Jerry's intial response, but
> look back over the first 4 posts. Of course this might be a waste of
> time, since you guys are obviously now biased towards me.
>
You posted an inappropriate message in the wrong group. This group is for PHP
programmers to help each other with PHP programming problems.
> How was I supposed to know everyone here were "serious people (aka this
> group)" that would get pissed at me for making a simple inquery? I've
> been recruiting the same way for a good while, and so far have some
> pretty skilled people on the team. I've also had my share of this same
> situation here. People making snap judgments, rather than taking a
> second to ask a question or two to clarify something.
>
Read before you post. Get the flavor of the group.
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