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Posted by Mark A. Boyd on 07/29/06 15:58
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:41:00 GMT, Ivan Marsh posted in comp.lang.php:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:18:40 +0100, Tony Marston wrote:
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>> "Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.07.27.15.30.31.757191@you.now...
>>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:13:29 +0100, Tony Marston wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:VZqdndIgAfB2OlXZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> Tony Marston wrote:
>>>>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:WYudnRl91u0MzVrZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tony Marston wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:Kb6dnRCvKMxASlvZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>ImOk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>I just read a thread about this and I thought I would just add my
>>>>>>>>>>2cents why this situation exists.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>In the stone age days, keyboards did not have lowercase. So
>>>>>>>>>>everything was typed in uppercase. No one bitched about it. Now
>>>>>>>>>>with upper and lower case keyboards people bitch and curse.
>>>>>>>>>>Including myself. But I live with it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The main reason why we have case sensitivity in programming
>>>>>>>>>>languages goes back to the start of cave man days of language
>>>>>>>>>>development: Compilation and interpretation performance. A
>>>>>>>>>>compiler does not have to
>>>>>>>>>>convert symbols to upper case or lower case or whatever. Also,
>>>>>>>>>>only one
>>>>>>>>>>way to have a symbol table in memory. This reasoning goes back to
>>>>>>>>>>the days of slow CPU's and low memory. Today, one could argue
>>>>>>>>>>otherwise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Same thing for many of the OSes of the world.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>So, they didn't force case sensitivity on us out of concern of
>>>>>>>>>>the English language (Only Smalltalk cares about this in a
>>>>>>>>>>serious manner).
>>>>>>>>>>After all look at the crappy function names in maney languages
>>>>>>>>>>including C and PHP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>There are many things that we are stuck with for historical
>>>>>>>>>>reasons that dont make sense today. But these days with
>>>>>>>>>>autocompletion it shouldn't be much of an issue. Provided you are
>>>>>>>>>>not using NoTePaD. Although I dislike VB for other reasons it
>>>>>>>>>>does it it best. If you declare a variable, it will go through
>>>>>>>>>>and fix it everywhere the same way. No questions asked.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ok, sorry about my rant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This has been hashed and rehashed ad nauseum in this group. If
>>>>>>>>>you want to read about it, check Google Groups.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Please let it drop. It's not going to change anything - or
>>>>>>>>>anyone's mind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is a typical instance of a small number of small minded coders
>>>>>>>>trying to enforce their idea of what is "pure" on everybody. The
>>>>>>>>whole idea sucks big time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Agreed. You are trying to enforce your ideas on everybody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No I'm not. It is the other way around. All computer languages and
>>>>>> operating systems were orginally case-insensitive. Windows is still
>>>>>> case-nsensitive, as are all the Windows products. Then a few
>>>>>> lame-brains thought that case sensitivity would be really "kewl" and
>>>>>> they are now trying to enforce their pathetic ideas on everybody
>>>>>> else.
>>>
>>> Sorry to jump in the middle of this but... no they weren't.
>>>
>>> C, the language that Windows was written in, is and has always been
>>> case sensitive.
>>
>> The Windows OS is, and has always been, case-insensitive. So have all
>> the tools such as Word, Notepad, etc.
>>
>> All the operating systems and languages which I used before Personal
>> Computers and Windows existed, such as mainframes and mini-computers,
>> were all case-insensitive. Just because one particular language enforced
>> case-sensitivity should not mean that it now has to be enforced on every
>> language and every operating system.
>
> All hail EBCDIC!
You guys and your fancy schmancy keyboards! Octal-coded binary switches!
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Mark A. Boyd
Keep-On-Learnin' :)
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