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Posted by Jochem Maas on 06/07/05 17:27
Jason Barnett wrote:
> I agree 100% with Greg's comments for the goto() / ifsetor() discussion
> on the internals list. As far as speed goes if the dev team knew of
> ways to improve specific parts of the codebase (while maintaining the
> rest of the features available in PHP) then I'm confident they would
> make that change.
>
> There was one comment on the internals list that perhaps the
> documentation should have a big fat red warning label that says "DO NOT
> USE THIS UNLESS YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING". I guess the
> developers assume users actually read the manual, but I think this list
> has proved time and again that end users don't do this. ;) This is
> especially true for newbies (i.e. the ones most likely to get burned by
> using goto() all over their code).
>
> PHP-dev team: at the moment you are supplying me with 95% of the
> features that I need with a base installation. Just focus on getting
> Unicode support, make it stable, and make it fast.
and fix whatever it is that causes failed require_once statement to segfault
( there are other instances where simple syntax errors causes segfaults - the
really annoying thing is that I/you get no logs, no errors, nothing - not very
easy to debug) ... this has been true since php5 beta
funny thing is I only see it happening in very complex scripts, which means its
obviously not a real bug because I can't create a short reproduce script -
(slight dig at someone there)
both goto and ifsetor (and a whole host of other stuff like PDO) I can miss,
whereas proper unicode support, better datetime handling and more indepth/usuable
documentation on php5 are things I am really looking forward to... like rather than giving
us even more features why not give us some good/complex examples
of the newer features (SPL, Exceptions, etc, etc) and give us the knowledge
we need to leverage the tools we already have.
>
heh Jason, your sig will require a new item ;-):
NEW? | http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
STFA | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general&w=2
STFM | http://php.net/manual/en/index.php
STFW | http://www.google.com/search?q=php
LAZY | http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=PHP&submitform=Find+search+plugins
GOTO | heh noob don't use 'goto'.
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