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Posted by mbstevens on 08/04/06 21:05
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:23:26 +0100, David Dorward wrote:
> Why? You are trying to find out about the Rocket Skates - what does the
> company logo have to do with that?
You don't give the appearance of reading ahead. I explained it in a
following paragraph: "When looking at future pages relating to that
company, you can just see the word 'logo' toward the front of the
description and will remember what you read previously."
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>> I'm reminded of the scene in "Lost in
>> Translation" where a director spends a full minute describing to Bill
>> Murray exactly what he wants him to do. The translator then turns to
>> Murray and says "He says, turn and smile to camera."
>
> I haven't see the film, but presumably the director is trying to describe
> exactly how he should act. The purpose of the conversation is to describe
> exactly how he should act. The purpose of the webpage is to describe the
> Rocket Skates, not the logo.
As I said to Alan: "It is a bad idea to try to guess an author's intention.
Authors can intend a huge range of things.
Their bosses can intend a huge range of things."
We don't even know exactly what the page is at this point, and you're
telling me the author's intentions. That is a very hard thing to support.
>
>> If you're someone
>> who has never seen a company's logo, and who will never be able to see
>> it, it might be useful for the web author to give you a little extra
>> information.
>
> Why? And what is wrong with longdesc?
I have no objection to it, but it is up to me as the author exactly
what goes into it. You seem to want to second guess the intentions
of any web page author that uses a logo.
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>> When looking at future pages relating to that company,
>> you can just see the word 'logo' toward the front of the description and
>> will remember what you read previously.
>
> And then have more scrolling or listening to get past the description that
> you've already read / heard.
I don't have a reader, but I would imagine that when you hear "logo" you
could hit some key to skip further reading.
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> The purpose of logos is usually to provide brand recognition. You see the
> logo, you associate it with the company at a glance. It isn't there so
> people can think of the company logo and go "Oooh, pretty".
No, but you may be taking away some of the 'poetry' of the logo by not
describing it. I'd rather hear "logo, Nike Swoop!" than "Nike Company".
I think you're being too literal. There are whole ranges of information
that an author _might_ want to use, not all of them purely
factual.
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