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Posted by Richard Levasseur on 08/09/06 08:17
dawnerd wrote:
> Richard Levasseur wrote:
> > dawnerd wrote:
> > > Richard Levasseur wrote:
> > > > Armando Padilla wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It is a very handy 12% at times, though. I've solved some problems
> > > > using my edumakashun that would've taken me much longer otherwise.
> > > > Most important are learning inside and out common design patterns and
> > > > knowing when to use them. This is also where books about specific
> > > > languages can come in handy since they usually have an example project
> > > > they're developing to illustrate their points.
> > > >
> > > > Additionally, simply having a college degree will open many more doors
> > > > for you. Many jobs won't even consider you unless you have a degree.
> > > > A degree is (generally speaking) a good indicator if the person is
> > > > capable or not.
> > >
> > > The problem with IT jobs, at least that I have seen, is that employers
> > > don't know much about what they are hiring you for, but know what certs
> > > are and in turn only hire people who go out and get certified, even if
> > > someone who isn't certified can do a better job.
> > >
> >
> > If you aren't being interviewed by, at least one, technical person,
> > then either:
> > They're small business, start up, or otherwise don't have large amount
> > of resources to have a technical lead, or
> > They're a large inept business with a lot of overhead and not the best
> > work environment.
> >
> > > I don't think it's really even needed to go to college to get into
> > > programming. If you know what your doing, well isn't that enough? To
> > > some it is, but again, employers often rely only on a certificate that
> > > you know what you are doing.
> >
> > There needs to be a new term for people who write software, one that
> > fits into a catchy acronym like IT. We aren't IT. IT admins the
> > servers, helps people with their mice, and makes the network run.
> >
> > There's a big difference between IT, software engineers, hardware
> > engineers, and web developers, IMO. There's also a big difference
> > between an engineer, developer, and programmer, again, IMO.
> >
> > Anyone can program, but not everyone can program well.
> > Anyone can solve that programming problem, but not everyone can solve
> > it well.
> > Anyone can go to college, but not everyone is cut out for college.
> >
> > College teaches you a lot more than just 'how to program;' it teaches
> > you how to think, how to write; how to be a better member of society.
> >
> > It is, after all, called "Computer *Science*," emphasis on the science
> > because there is a theory and science behind it all. And really, any
> > web developer should learn it, they are probably the least formally
> > educated programmers out of anyone. Most of it is actually very
> > interesting, especially compiler and database design.
>
> I agree with you on the college part. Some people are just born able to
> think through problems and programming. I will not attend computer
> science; however, I am starting a game development firm, and I am sure
> I will be taking at least a few business courses.
>
> I also don't think that you can be taught to think better. Just like
> you cannot be taught how to write. It's something you have to discover
> on your own.
If you're going to do game development, I highly suggest you go to
college and be a double math/cs major. You're going to need to know a
lot of math and be able to relate it to the computer data structures
and limitations.
Unless your just going to go market games...in which
case...please...don't hype up the crappy ones! We have enough bad
games already!
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