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Re: HTML 4.01 Transitional versus Frameset

Posted by Gus Richter on 11/27/81 11:57

dorayme wrote:
> In article <4m3f6mF4c1vfU1@individual.net>,
> Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>> I dug out an old framed site of mine and it accords with what
>>> Adrienne says and validates. In other words, it has the frameset
>>> DTD for the frameset but the other strict 4.01 for the docs that
>>> the frames refer to. But I think there is an issue surrounding
>>> this and have forgotten.
>> Not the one Arne mentioned? Most of the time when someone uses frames,
>> the purpose is at least in part to display static navigation links in
>> one or more of the frames that, when activated, load some document into
>> another of the frames. To do that (without Javascript), you need the
>> "target" attribute, and Strict doesn't have that. Of course, you can use
>> Strict for documents that have no references to the containing frameset
>> or any of its other frames.
>
> You are right, I was too hasty... I dug the thing out, God, it
> was dusty, and stuck a test link in to an external site on it
>
> <a href="http://somedomain.com.au" target="_top">here</a>
>
> and it worked fine on my tests! Plus, I relied too much on iCab's
> smiling uncomplaining validation icon face. Sorry Arne... And
> then, with more poking about, I found I did have Transitional on
> lots of the inner frames and likely for this reason. It is really
> sad how one forgets a much loved technology so quickly....

Too hasty again, I believe.
I had to go back and look at my notes and examples also. There are 3
types of pages involded here.
Frameset, which requires the frameset dtd.
Transitional, which is required for the typical navigation frame where
the "target" is required.
Strict or Transitional for the pages being inserted into the frames and
where "target" is typically not required.

All rather moot since frameless frames should be the way to go today.

--
Gus

 

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