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Posted by bigdaddybs on 09/12/06 09:24

Smed wrote:
> whenever i tell people i use Frontpage for my html editor, they give that
> little laugh and say, "well i guess you aren't serious about making a
> website"...

These people don't seem to realize that you can create the page in
FrontPage Edit mode, and then edit the source to do what you wish. Yes,
there are problems with FrontPage, but there are "problems" of some
sort with ANY WYSIWYG and other editors.

Personally, I use FP in Edit mode to type in my content. (No groans...
I have absolutely NO CLUE how to use DBs for the sites I have that
could, and it's much easier to edit the HTML if FP has put the tags on
most of the stuff for me.) I do use the PREVIEW tag to double-check
that my editing has not screwed up the way I wanted the page to look,
and close it out. When I publish, FP keeps track of what pages are
linked where (images, other pages, subdirectories, whatever) on my
computer, and redoes the website links after everything's moved. (Other
editors do this, too. However, I've had cases where when I didn't use
FP for publishing, the links had to be redone "on-the-fly" live on the
web. Maybe I'm missing something here...(?))

And, yes... I have used Notepad at times. I also tried other
(admittedly free) HTML editors, and none seemed to work as well for
what I needed them to do.

Purists will probably say you should NEVER use a WYSIWYG editor, though
I'm sure all WYS's allow for much quicker and cleaner development and
prototyping. Yes, if you have your layout, you can use Notepad (or it's
cousins), though sometimes you will miss things that FP (or others)
catches.

If you feel comfortable with using FP while others don't, I don't see a
problem either. I would simply say to be careful and DO NOT USE any of
the "bells and whistles" that come with it... and DEFINITELY be careful
if you create forms and input fields. You should be able to find
examples by just searching for "forms html" or "form fields html" or
something like that, and add them into your HTML directly (FP source,
Notepad, etc.).

Everyone has their favorites.

> i really dont see the disadvantages to it but then i have only used
> Frontpage so i dont know the advantages to the others...

Personally, I don't either, and, as long as it works for me...

> why do people hate Frontpage?..

Because it's a Microsoft product, plain and simple. They (MS) created a
webpage builder so anyone who has used almost any MS (and other)
product (especially word-processors) could use it, and people hate
that!

> what editors would you recommend?..

I do agree that other MS products (Word, Excel, etc.) are VERY BAD at
creating websites. They put a LOT of extra code in the HTML (almost, if
not, EVERY line of HTML) that is unnecessary. (The only "extra" code I
leave in my FP-created/-edited pages are in the META tags.)

As I said, I've tried a few others, but as long as I'm (and you're)
aware of what FP will add in that shouldn't be there, of what it CAN'T
do, you validate your pages at http://validator.w3.org/, and the page
layouts are double-checked with AT LEAST Firefox, I, personally, don't
see a problem with it.

BS

 

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