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Posted by Max on 11/27/56 11:58
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 18:41:21 -0400, Gus Richter
<gusrichter@netscape.net> wrote:
>dorayme wrote:
>> In article <4m3f6mF4c1vfU1@individual.net>,
>> Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> I dug out an old framed site of mine and it accords with what
>>>> Adrienne says and validates. In other words, it has the frameset
>>>> DTD for the frameset but the other strict 4.01 for the docs that
>>>> the frames refer to. But I think there is an issue surrounding
>>>> this and have forgotten.
>>> Not the one Arne mentioned? Most of the time when someone uses frames,
>>> the purpose is at least in part to display static navigation links in
>>> one or more of the frames that, when activated, load some document into
>>> another of the frames. To do that (without Javascript), you need the
>>> "target" attribute, and Strict doesn't have that. Of course, you can use
>>> Strict for documents that have no references to the containing frameset
>>> or any of its other frames.
Why doesn't Strict have target? How are you supposed to get the same
results using Strict? Does XHTML not have target?
>> You are right, I was too hasty... I dug the thing out, God, it
>> was dusty, and stuck a test link in to an external site on it
>>
>> <a href="http://somedomain.com.au" target="_top">here</a>
>>
>> and it worked fine on my tests! Plus, I relied too much on iCab's
>> smiling uncomplaining validation icon face. Sorry Arne... And
>> then, with more poking about, I found I did have Transitional on
>> lots of the inner frames and likely for this reason. It is really
>> sad how one forgets a much loved technology so quickly....
>
>Too hasty again, I believe.
>I had to go back and look at my notes and examples also. There are 3
>types of pages involded here.
>Frameset, which requires the frameset dtd.
>Transitional, which is required for the typical navigation frame where
>the "target" is required.
>Strict or Transitional for the pages being inserted into the frames and
>where "target" is typically not required.
>
>All rather moot since frameless frames should be the way to go today.
How do you get the effect of frameless frames? If you want a small
left frame to load documents into a larger right frame, without using
frames, how would you do it?
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