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Re: [PHP] Re: reverse MD5 ???

Posted by Chris Shiflett on 06/13/05 19:19

Murray @ PlanetThoughtful wrote:
> The app in question was storing the md5 value of 4-digit PINs in the
> background database, and the owners of the app were quietly confident that
> this meant the PINs were 'encrypted' and 'secure'.

Amazing.

Thanks for sharing that. It's a great example. :-)

> Of course, there are only 10,000 possible PIN values between 0000 and 9999,
> regardless of whether or not they're stored in plaintext or md5 hashed form,
> and I guess it took me less than 15 minutes to build a reference table of
> all md5 hash values for the possible plaintext PINs and therefore
> effortlessly retrieve the plaintext PIN values from their table.

There are efforts to create these types of tables for arbitrary strings:

http://md5.rednoize.com/

Of course, it's worth noting that these methods aren't reversing MD5.

> Md5 is a very handy way of 'securing' [1] password information, but only
> when the plaintext value offers enough possible variation in length and / or
> value to make building a 'possible variations' lookup table a difficult
> proposition.

Exactly, and this is why it's a good practice to use a seed when you
generate MD5s for passwords.

Thanks again for the story, frightening as it was. :-)

Chris

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