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Posted by dorayme on 09/25/06 22:20
In article <451764d3$0$19916$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net>,
Leif K-Brooks <eurleif@ecritters.biz> wrote:
> dorayme wrote:
> > In article <45175640$0$19904$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net>,
> > Leif K-Brooks <eurleif@ecritters.biz> wrote:
> >
> >> Adrienne Boswell wrote:
> >>> <ul>
> >>> <li>You are here</li>
> >>> <li><a href="index.html">Home</a></li>
> >>> <li><a href="section1.html">Section</a></li>
> >>> <li><a href="subsection.html">Subsection</a></li>
> >>> <li class="theend">This page</li>
> >>> </ul>
> >> I would say the first item belongs in a heading above the list, not as
> >> part of the list.
> >
> > A bit hard to say... the list is of where you are in relation to
> > where you have been or could have been naturally. And so seems
> > fine enough in this case.
>
> But the text 'You are here' is a _description_ of a list showing where
> you've been, not part of that list. You haven't been to, and can't ever
> be at, a page called 'You are here'.
I was thinking not so much of the exact words used but the
general idea of showing a list of orientation with the first item
being a prominent part of the list itself by being first. (I hope
I am not seeming to reason from hindsight: I have noticed that DD
mentions the ordered list and this seems to me to capture the
spirit more.)
The issue turns, of course, on the subject of the list. In a
visual map, there is often a cross to indicate where you are. But
it is part of the map itself. Leif has concentrated on some exact
wording here and in my opinion at least, "the text 'You are here'
is a _description_ of a list...' is not quite true. It is a
marker like in a map and can be considered part of the map. The
list is a word map.
But I am not saying that Leif's point is quite unreasonable.
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dorayme
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