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Posted by Els on 10/12/06 21:34
dorayme wrote:
> In article <bnkfw8zy6pnw$.xhljjz2wkunp$.dlg@40tude.net>,
> Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote:
>
>> dorayme wrote:
>>
>>> In article <13c705g5pavhp.1c03cco7aaba7.dlg@40tude.net>,
>>> Els <els.aNOSPAM@tiscali.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of course not. But your clients just may expect their websites to
>>>> a) work in all currently used browsers (that includes oldies like IE5
>>>> as well as text browsers and screenreaders)
>>>> b) be accessible to everybody, including the blind and those without a
>>>> mouse.
>>>
>>> I would fall over backwards if my clients ever said anything as
>>> sophisticated as this. I mean it. It is just not on the radar for
>>> most people, I am talking intelligent people here too. I would
>>> not be surprised if most clients have to a be persuaded by their
>>> website makers to have such thoughts... especially if they were
>>> lucky enough to have one like you to educate them. Methinks the
>>> push for standards is not driven by the market (proof: look at
>>> the state of it!), but by the trail blazers at alt.html and the
>>> like.
>>
>> If that were true, I don't think I would get all those clients who
>> want accessible websites. Most of them have never heard of alt.html
>> :-)
>>
>
> I have never heard anyone wanting a website actually talk about
> IE5 or the blind or the mouseless or the mouse-shys or PDA's or
> mobile phones without leading questions by me...
Me neither - they ask for "accessibility", and I recall one client
wanting the site to look good in IE5, cause that happened to be the
only browser they were using :\
> I have made
> websites for people in organizations who have IT depts that have
> written specifications recommending or requiring accessibility
> criteria, true, but these may as well be double-dutch - sorry Els
> :) - to the particular hirer.
I didn't say they *understand* accessibility ;-)
They have just heard the accessibility buzz word, and want me to build
it like that. It's just a starting point though, I still have to
explain about tiny fonts, skip links, and the rest of it.
> And from the look of almost every
> other page at these organizations, no one seems to take a lot of
> notice of these standards however generally competent and
> generally useful these "non-assessible" pages are.
>
> But I work for people who appreciate these standards, who can be
> led to see they are good things. Just my experience I guess... So
> I was thinking that when most people hire people to make a
> website, it would be very few indeed who talked the talk.
Yup - few understand what it is, but the word itself is spreading :-)
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