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Posted by Stevie D on 10/18/06 17:31
Travis Newbury wrote:
> Ah, this is where we disagree. To me, the objective starting point is
> the look and feel of a site. Not validation.
That doesn't make sense.
The look and feel of a site is *subjective*. You might like it, you
might not, but there is no objective measure of "look and feel".
> I understand that there are millions of people out there that will
> never see things I do, and they will probably never return to a site I
> have touched because they either don't use flash, they don't have the
> connection speed needed, or they just don't like that kind of thing.
Why should it be a fact of life? If someone doesn't return to your
site, that means that your site is not useful to them. It may be that
they have no need of the information on your site, and what they are
after just isn't there - that's fine, we don't expect every website to
answer every question. But the other option - that the information
_is_ on your site, but the user can't access it - is not acceptable.
That means that you have failed in your design. There's no other word
for it - you have failed.
> Validation, is a good starting point, but you have to find the balance
> that makes your site successful in it's little niche. There is another
> side to the web, an inaccessible, javascript loving, Flash hugging, non
> validating side. And there are 10s of millions of people out there
> that seek that kind of site. They come to see the presentation.
No, those people don't *seek* an inaccessible or non-validating site.
What they seek is an interesting, funky website - and what happens is
that the deezyners they go to either don't know how to write an
accessible and valid site that is interesting and funky, or they are
too lazy/arrogant to believe accessibility and validity are important.
If you asked people "Do you want a snazzy website that everyone can
use, or do you want a snazzy website that not everyone can use?", I'm
pretty sure they would go for the first option!
> Well I kind of got off the subject a little... Anyway, I think
> validation is a good thing. But only if it does not break my
> presentation.
It strikes me that you're putting the cart before the horse. Start
with an accessible and valid framework, and build the presentation up
from there. You will find your pages much easier to work with, much
leaner and much more efficient and effective.
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