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Posted by Jonathan N. Little on 12/02/06 15:12
natashab wrote:
> thank you for your total lack of support, in fact I find your replies
> totally demeaning to the fact that I have created a sight with no html
> knowledge, with no internet server, hosting etc experience what so
> ever. I gave something a shot that I had an interest in.
Not sure what type of "support" that you were expecting, some
"Barney-fied" saccharine cheer that "Everyone's a star!" and "Your
effort is all that counts!" Folks here expect when asked for advice to
give *real* advice.
> You all obviously have a far greater knowledge than myself but to put
> me down and my attempts, I find is disgusting in the first degree.
Why, would rather ask advice from someone who knows *less* than you do
on the subject? You are not being put down but your work was criticized
and problems were identified and solutions were supplied. Sounds like
helpful advice to me.
>
> Yes I used freewebs, and redirected the domain name to it. This was
> done for a specific reason. To get the site live without it costing
> anything, without having to go to the expense of paying a hosting
> company. It was a gift to the dance tutor.
Sometimes "free" has a *real* price. There are some very real
impediments to such arrangements and hosting. Can be a real handicap,
especially for a beginner.
> Yes it probably is well out of 1995. How else is one meant to learn
> without trial and error.
True, but would you not say that it would be easier to learn something
correctly once, rather than learn an obsolete method only to have to
unlearn it to relearn the correct method? BTW, the current method of
HTML & CSS is far easier to maintain then à la 1995. There are other
benefits as well.
> The coding change I talked about has nothing what so ever to do with
> the frames and everything to do I believe with having sent the html
> index file to friends to look at and then them sending it back to me
> edited.
>
> I joined this group thinking I would gain an understanding to the
> development on web design and learn more about coding.
Which is exactly what BTS offered! Maybe you should traverse the link he
suppled:
See http://htmldog.com/
I believe others here will agree that you will gain much from the
information offered. Read it, digest it, try again with your site, and
come back when you want some real dialog.
> The course I am on has again nothing to do with how I have coded the
> site as I haven't even advanced to that point of correctly learning
> HTML or even CSS!!!! So please do not be so down on my work or my
> choice of education.
Not sure what you hoped for? Would you attempts to build a house without
researching carpentry, or farming without knowledge of seed, soil and
fertilizer?
> Unlike most of you that are most likely far enough qualified in this
> field I am but a mere beginner, I didn't expect this kind of a slagging
> down.
Believe it or not we all were beginners. Whether or not you progress
beyond such status depends on you and whether or not you are receptive
to learning.
> Oh and thanks to http://www.xs4all.nl/~waaij99/ for using the enquiry
> form but for not actually bothering to fill it out properly. It would
> have been nice to have actually received a comment or something rather
> than use up one of the free queries just because you felt like clicking
> to see what happens and to see how I had set this part of the site up.
As he stated, he did nothing wrong. Links are to be used. If your form
requires certain valid data, it is up to you, the designer, to put
validation into your script. If not, your form is most likely a handy
tool for hackers to relay spam. When you are ready to learn many here
can advise you as to methods to secure your form.
> You rudeness in totally thread jacking my thread to discuss many other
> topics other than my introduction or to give me proper words of advice
> on how to correct my errors and put me on the right path totally
> astounds me!!!
>
> Now you may all be just as rude back but I feel I am just in sounding
> off in this manner because this wasn't the welcome I expected what so
> ever!!!!
The only rudeness I have seen is your reaction. There were honest
attempts to assist you in this thread.
> Or do none of you have proper manner and are really as crass as I have
> been led to believe about most Americans!!!!
What can I say, this is not a productive way to ask for assistance, and
does not speak well for your etiquette.
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Take care,
Jonathan
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