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Posted by Kim Andrι Akerψ on 12/07/06 14:01
JJ wrote:
> On 6 Dec 2006 14:33:55 -0800, "AndrewRT" <raturvey@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > JJ wrote:
> >
> >> I want to put up several websites.. Id like to be able to have
> freedom >> to to post just about anything i want.. I live in the usa
> but if the >> host was overseas then it should be ok right? I plan on
> hosting >> hacking info.. drug and chemical info. maybe a few nudie
> pictures..
> >
> > Where do you get this crazy idea you have a RIGHT to post info on
> > hacking, illegal drugs and pornography??
> >
> > Get real. Actions have consequences.
> >
> > No it wouldn't be ok if it was overseas - you would still be liable
> > for any offenses you committed.
>
> uh its covered under the first amendment..
Opinions, yes. Anything, not quite. IANAL, and I'm not American (not
even close), but I do have some insight to law in general. If you've
actually taken the time to read the bill of rights (any part of it),
you might find this interesting:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.billofrights.html
<quote>
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
</quote>
Or to translate from legal-speak: "Religions, opinions (either as an
individual or as a member of the press) and peaceful demonstrations
(either by gatherings or by sending a petition to the government) are
legal."
It doesn't say anything about hacking, illegal drugs (note the word
"illegal") and the posting of pornography.
Free speech includes the right to oppose the way of government in terms
of opinions; breaking other laws is an entirely different matter. As
Andrew pointed out, actions have consequenses.
> as long as i dont encourage
> anyone to do anything illegal i can post what i want..
Encouragement is all in the eyes of the beholder, apparently. Just look
at the cases where people are trying to get certain video games banned
because of the violent content. Depending on who you talk to, some may
see the violent games as "encouragement to perform violent actions".
Although the "violent movies and video games breed violence" claim is
still a myth, the cases involving them can't be ignored completely
(dismissed, perhaps, but not ignored).
> including
> articles on how sites are hacked..
Describing the process in general on how someone was hacked is one
thing. The problem
> how people use drugs..
Fair enough. A "how-to" guide on how to use drugs might seem "innocent
enough", but it might be perceived as an encouragement. Especially for
the "non-prescription, non-pharmacy" type.
> and yes i
> can also post porn info or pics of nude women as long as they are not
> underage..
Unless you photograph the models yourself, you're generally breaking
copyright law (state, federal and international). If you do photograph
the models yourself, you have some legal obligations instead:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2257.html
> just because you dont like it doesnt mean its illegal.
> websites are subject to the laws of the county they are hosted in..
IIRC, websites are generally subject to the laws of the county (and
country) of the server farm (where the site is hosted) as well as the
hosting provider's HQ and your home location.
> thats how online gambling sites work.. they cant be hosted in the usa
> but we as US citizenz arent doing anything illegal by gambling on them
> since they are overseas.. just an example.. but a relevant example..
Yes, online gambling sites are not subject to US law. Not only because
the sites are hosted overseas, but also because the companies
themselves are located overseas.
> Dont worry, everyone in this newgroup with a valid email will get
> spammed.. no uhh that was a typo.. i mean they will get a personal
> invitation to my Anarchy site when its done! (You can thank me later)
Yes... "thanks".
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