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Posted by al jones on 02/09/07 03:25
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:08:35 GMT, al jones wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:30:33 +0100, John Hosking wrote:
>
>> al jones wrote:
>>>
>>> I've put the european 'quote' marks in as next page / previous page on two
>>> pages (08/??/63 WWvA and 08/11/63 WWvA Diary) clear and float aren't doing
>>> what I expect them to - but that isn't anything new.
>>>
>>> To add insult to injury, the image alignment which was working has just
>>> fallen apart again - and since you've understood what I've been trying to
>>> do, I'm imposing - if you would be so kind.
>>>
>>
>> Hello, Al
>>
>> Yes, I noticed yesterday you were "troubled" again but I couldn't take
>> time to look at your stuff then. Even now I'm a bit busy but will look
>> at your site a bit more soon. For now, two items which I can talk about
>> quickly because they're the two little things I might have a chance of
>> knowing what I'm talking about:
>>
>> 1. Your page titled/named "Forward" should really be "Foreword."
>> "Forward" is a direction; a "foreword" is the word(s) which come(s)
>> before. So your introductory text about who William Wallace Van Amber
>> was is really a foreword. Readers can go forward from there... ;-)
> Abashed!!!! :) and I consider myself somewhat of a grammarian. Thanks for
> pointing that out. Fixed but not uploaded. ((Sheesh!!)
>>
>> 2. The European quotation marks (otherwise popularly known as LEFT- and
>> RIGHT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARKS or guillemets) are way too
>> small. Also, it's not readily apparent what they're doing there when
>> they *are* noticed. I suggest you style them larger and add a title
>> attribute, as for example in
>> <a class="ppage" title="to previous record" href="630809va1.html">«</a>.
>> (It would be better to say "previous letter" or "previous diary page" as
>> applicable, but that means you have to know what came before and after,
>> and be more careful about coding each page. More of a pain to maintain.)
> See changes related to the other half of this, I've increased the size, and
> if I can get this working correctly I'd like to grab someones 'arrows' with
> next / previous in them but at this point I'm not sure this isn't an
> exercise in futility. Definitely more of a pain, but I'd like to see it
> since it would let people go from letter to letter without having to return
> to the 'index'.
>>
>> And you don't want clear here, just float. But try rearranging the order
>> (no, it's not something you're expected to guess). Study (and try):
>>
>> .ppage { float:left; font-size:1.4em; }
>> .npage { float:right; font-size:1.4em; }
>> h2 { text-align:center;
>> margin-top:0;
>> padding:0em; }
>>
>> <a class="ppage" title="previous record" href="630809va1.html">«</a><a
>> class="npage" title="next record" href="630816va1.html">»</a><h2>Diary
>> Entries August 11th, 1863</h2>
> see my two sample pages, you and one other in the other thread suggested
> this and the results I saw weren't what I expected. I''m obviously not
> understanding something ((a LOT of comsthings))
>>
>> That's all I can offer right now. More about the image alignment later.
>> But lets review your requirements, okay?
> Sure ...
>>
>> You want the diary pages on the left side of your main content (it's
>> understood the long list of letters and diary pages are on the screen's
>> far left, inviolate).
> To the first half (position of the image / text) yes, that's true. As far
> as the long list - I'd be most open to an alternative but I don't see one -
> it's far from inviolate!
>>
>> For each diary page image, you want the textual transcription to be to
>> the right of the image, with the first entry's text (starting with its
>> date) lining up with the top of the image containing that original text.
>> Yes?
> True ...
>>
>> Now, if the writer didn't have much to say (or the font size is
>> smallish), the text won't stretch down the length of the image. In this
>> case, you just want some empty space to the right of the lower part of
>> the image. Correct?
> Again true ...
>>
>> Each diary page might have three days' worth of entries, so the text
>> "per page" might stretch below the bottom of the page's image. (This can
>> also happen when the font size is large or huge or gigantic.) In this
>> case, what do you want to happen? Should the "extra" text flow under and
>> to the left, below the image? Or would you like the left margin of the
>> text transcription to always be a straight line, always to the right of
>> the images' right edges?
> Preference is to have it flow under the associated imag - as it does now
> when things are working correctly.
>>
>> Do you like or dislike horizontal rules separating the diary pages'
>> texts (3 by 3)?
> I've put <hr/>'s in several pages - it provides a c;ean break between the
> one set of images and text and the next set. '(3 by 3)' Not sure what you
> mean by this.
>
> I'm trying to get dressed - my truck is sitting in the yard waiting for me
> to appear, like everyone else I have a day job that seems to make demands
> on my time - that said, I appreciate your efforts on helping this layman.
> (actully I appreciate everyones help!!)
>
> I'm now running late so I'm gone, thanks //al
P*I*N*G -- hey John, did you forget you asked the questions to which I
provided answers; I'm waiting on the next course! I've tried to strip
down some of what I've been doing to see if I can understand, better, why
it isn't working right, but I'm still stuck!
//al
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