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Posted by robert maas, see http://tinyurl.com/uh3t on 02/16/07 18:51
> From: "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...@centralva.net>
> > I use a text-only browser because it's the **only** browser
> > available to me. So fuck off with your stupid remarks about my
> > motivation for using a text-only browser.
> I think you have it ass-backwards. If your document is for the *public*
> (i.e., published to the Internet) then what *you* use for a browser is
> not important. What *is* important is what your visitors will be using!
What *I* use for a browser is entirely crucial to the development
process. When I write come HTML, I have *no* way to see how it
might look in some *other* browser I don't have access to. All I
can see is how it looks in lynx, and what the validator says about
it. If it seems correct as I design it, and if lynx agrees by
presenting it the way I expected it to look, and if the validator
says it's "correct", that's the very best I can do from here. I can
only *hope* that it looks equally as-intended with other browsers.
Now if I had access to somebody with another browser, who would
tell me on a regular basis how it looked there, but I don't.
> You code for them.
How would you propose I do that, give that I get absolutely no
timely feedback as to how it might look for them?
> So if this is for the Internet then your visitors, (even those
> from 3rd-world countries) will using a CSS supporting, GUI based
> browser! Even if you only access the web in Lynx your can design
> and test your page local with <insert GUI browser of your choice>
> then upload it when your done.
I don't have access to any machine which has a GUI browser and also
has a working modem that would allow me to upload anything. My laptop
has a very very old (1999) version of NetScape, but no working
modem. My Macintosh has a working modem, but no working GUI
browser. (When I try to run IE on it, it freezes the whole machine,
forcing a COLD RESTART. I don't know anyone willing to help me for
free to get it working for GUI browser, and I don't have any money
to pay anyone to help me.)
> Install Apache and make your development real easy.
Does Apache run on a Macintosh under System 7.5.5??
I have only 16 megabytes free disk space. Will it run in 5
megabytes or less so I still have some free disk space for
temporary files?
> Otherwise, screw-it and forego the HTML that you are battling
> with and make it a plain text file and be done with it.
Plain text doesn't support clicking on link from table of contents
to take you to appropriate section. Apparently you haven't the
foggiest idea what I'm trying to accomplish with this Web site.
Please go to:
<http://www.rawbw.com/~rem/HelloPlus/CookBook/Matrix.html> find
some sub-section of interest, where I already have some content (an
active link, instead of a [Stub]), for example, any of:
Integers ... and Characters
Pointers ... and Integers
Strings ... Characters
you get the idea? Click on the link. See the relevant section that
coordinates those two datatypes. Tell me how the user can click on
links like that with a plain text file, huh??
(Now imagine how it'll be when all the [Stubs] are converted to
links to sections I haven't yet written?)
Now if you agree with me that it isn't possible to achieve my goal
with a plain text file, but you think I'm doing a cruddy job of
organizing and/or presenting the information, please feel free to
develop your own version and publish it in competition with mine.
As far as I know, I'm the very first to attempt a matrix
coordinating two data types in multiple languages in parallel, but
you can be the second to try if you feel that you can do a better
job than I can. Be sure to tell me the URL of your attempt so that
I can nitpick it as much as you nitpick my attempt.
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