|  | Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 02/23/07 05:59 
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:22:20 -0600, "Steve" <no.one@example.com>wrote:
 
 >| So with the new indexing ability of my new Backwater site a question
 >| keeps coming up in my mind...is there a better way?
 
 >yes, there is. anyway other than the way you do it. you inevitably get it
 >wrong...pick your context.
 
 Oh boy, I think I've got another Hatter Addict in the making here...or
 are you already a Hatter Addict?  It's getting hard to keep track,
 what with how many of them I have these days.
 
 >| On the Backwater site for example when you click on a nav button it's
 >| essentially performing a meta-refresh on the page but then adding on
 >| the appropriate GET variable to the URL.
 >|
 >| This is a bit annoying in that it winds up having to reload about 800K
 >| of data, which, even from the browser cache takes 3 to 5 seconds.
 >| Now, it is true that in that respect it winds up functioning like your
 >| average HTML/CSS/javascript based site...but part of wanting to use
 >| Flash (aside from the compatibility) is the increased speed in NOT
 >| having to needlessly reload anything from the cache.
 
 >this is web programming 101, dumbass.
 
 Well, no, actually it isn't.  What I'm asking for is something that
 would essentially go against the very nature of the way it's supposed
 to operate and there might not even BE a way of doing it...and if
 there is it'd likely fall under "web malware 101" as it would
 certainly help that kind out.
 
 >as for 'compatibility', you don't seem
 >to conceive that not all browsers support flash...
 
 The only browser that doesn't support Flash is Lynx...which is what
 blind people use...and coincidentally it's only in use by like .00001%
 of the total net.populous...not that it really matters since the site
 has a plain text fall back version in the event that for some idiot
 reason the dumbfuck has got Flash disables or in the event that
 they're a blind user...or an Amish of the Internet user (a person who
 isn't blind who uses Lynx).
 
 >much less javascript or
 >css.
 
 ....tell me, what the fuck decade are you trapped in, Sunshine?  Yeesh,
 talk about the technologically stunted.  Where the fuck has your
 stupid has been for the past 7 years?
 
 >further, you never heed anyone's professional advice that you should be
 >accounting for this. but hell, you site is for you...no one else gives a
 >flying fuck.
 
 Well the quarter MILLION people going to my site on a monthly basis
 seem to disagree with your ASSumptions, you stupid jackass.  Speaking
 of which, for some reason I'm real popular in Puerto Rico lately, my
 Alexia ratings show me at 15,280...which is like...woah...  I figured
 they musta mentioned one of my sites on one of their television
 stations or something.  I'm really worried that one of these days
 something like that is gonna happen in the US.  One lil blurb about my
 sites on say Tech TV would be enough to hammer my server with enough
 traffic to knock it out of face of existence.  If worse comes to worse
 I might wind up having to use adsense banners, especially if the
 current growth trend on Backwater continues.
 
 >| So the question is...is there some way to make it so that when someone
 >| goes to bookmark the page it'll alter the bookmarking URL or is there
 >| some way of dynamically altering the URL while NOT actually reloading
 >| the page?
 
 >oh, i'd say mind-reading would be good...that, or load all your data in your
 >crap-app...errr...i mean, flash-app and then the universe is in the client
 >world.
 
 ....yup, I was right about you, a Hatter Addict.  Free cl00, Kiddo,
 this ain't Star Trek and everyone can tell when you're babbling
 nonsense.
 
 >if you've ever heard of *security*, you'd know that altering a url
 >cannot be a function that is reliably done client-side...even for a good
 >hacker.
 
 ....why the fuck would a hacker want to alter bookmark URLs you
 dribbling dumbfuck?  Do you even know what hacking is?  Don't answer
 that, it's rhetorical.
 
 >further, that altering a url does shit for you unless you access
 >what is on the other side of it.
 
 ....uh, hello, fucking retard, what part of GET VARIABLES did you not
 comprehend the first time I said it?  It can alter the url and go to
 the appropriate section, it doesn't need to ACTUALLY go to the URL
 since it's technically ALREADY FUCKING THERE...yeesh...where the fuck
 did this n00b come from?
 
 >finally, you sure put a lot of faith in
 >people enabling javascript...because surely you don't plan on manipulating
 >it on the server-side.
 
 http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
 
 Jan 2006 - 10% of users have javascript disabled
 Jul 2006 - 8% of users have javascript disabled
 Jan 2007 - 6% of users have javascript disabled
 
 Noticing a trend here, Retard?  Eventually even the technologically
 retarded get forced to catch up with the rest of us.  And again, the
 site has a plain text fall back version regardless, so your whining is
 very much a moot point.
 
 >it is painfully obvious that you failed to architect any of these factors
 >into your site...
 
 It is painfully obvious that you're Jesus molesting retarded for not
 having noticed that the site has a plain text fall back version built
 ESPECIALLY for retards like yourself.  ^_^
 
 >| So far the only viable solution I've come up with is to
 >| include my own little bookmarking button that when clicked would be
 >| able to set a dynamic bookmark...but I was kinda hoping for something
 >| a bit more...evolved.
 
 >i suppose one is limited to their own level of evolution in thought
 >capacity. hence, you are stuck with these problems.
 
 Hey uh, Retard...I couldn't help but notice that you weren't actually
 able to offer...well, ANYTHING in the way of viable solution to the
 problem I've presented...well unless you count retarding back HTML
 2.0, but since the site already has a fall back version the needs of
 your kind has already been met and, well, quite frankly this topic
 really doesn't have anything to do with you at all, Dribbles.
 
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