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Re: Bookmark and/or URL Manipulation

Posted by Steve on 02/24/07 05:25

"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
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| On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:50:21 -0600, "Steve" <no.one@example.com>
| wrote:
|
| >| Well, no, actually it isn't. What I'm asking for is something that
| >| would essentially go against the very nature of the way it's supposed
| >| to operate and there might not even BE a way of doing it...and if
| >| there is it'd likely fall under "web malware 101" as it would
| >| certainly help that kind out.
|
| >i see that when you have difficulties, you blame the technology as the
| >shortcoming. that's a trend more closely resembling projection.
'technology'
| >and 'other' people get blamed a lot on your behalf.
|
| There's no blame, you retard, the technology can only do what it can
| do, no amount of wishing or bullshit pulled out of yer ass is gonna
| change it. Also, it's interesting that YOU refer to it as a
| shortcoming, where as *I* presented it as a SECURITY FEATURE...yer
| kinda...slow, so I can see as how you might have missed that. ^_^

lol. i brought up security and how you can't count on being able to
client-side manipulate a bookmark url. member that, dumbass. and the
statement to 'shortcomings' is not just in the context of this thread. all
your posts bitch about shortcomings of everyone and everthing...but
yourself...when it is you causing all your problems to begin with...in case
you missed that.


| Uh, hello, retard, the OS has NOTHING to do with it, it's the BROWSER.
| Now either you tell me SPECIFICALLY what browser it is that you think
| won't work with Flash, or YOU LOOK STUPID. Pick one.


since flash doesn't fully support 64 bit systems yet...uhhh...64 bit
systems. dumbmass. and btw, flash doesn't install in a browser, in case you
didn't know. it is the operating system that flash installs on. there's no
choice with you...you just made YOURSELF look stupid.

plus, not everyone enjoys flash on their systems. so, *any* browser on that
system would fail to support flash.

gawd damn, you're a tard.


| >wow! is english a second or third language for you?
|
| This from the retard who apparently hasn't figured out what the shift
| key does.

'tell me when you have removed have your ass have from have your have ass'.


| >i suppose 249K of them have been you accessing it during debug...which
i'm
| >sure you do directly on your production server. ;^)
|
| Sorry, Retard, but all testing and such is done OFFLINE, locally
| (although I do sometimes put up beta versions for other people to look
| at and mess with before the release version is put out).

yet still to production code...thought so. amature.

| >| ...yup, I was right about you, a Hatter Addict. Free cl00, Kiddo,
| >| this ain't Star Trek and everyone can tell when you're babbling
| >| nonsense.
|
| >you can't comprehend english either.
|
| Free cl00, Retard, English, it's CAPITALIZED...woah...English is teh
| HARD, innt?

c100, teh, HARD, innt ... you are funny and hypocritical at the same time.

| >i don't care what you do to a url, the
| >server cannot, without mind-reading, know what you want without accessing
| >the server with that url. your choices then become, loading all the
server
| >data onto the client for it to trudge through, or getting the appropriate
| >data from the server using the url.
|
| Well maybe if it was plain HTML/CSS/javascript you would have a point,
| but I'm talking about a FLASH FILE, which is like a browser in and of
| itself and certainly DOES NOT require direct alterations to the URL in
| order to load child SWF files within itself. The Flash file is setup
| to check the URL for any get variables and to act on them if there
| are, but it most certainly IS NOT dependant upon it for ITS OWN
| NAVIGATION.

retard. are you saying you load flash with the world or that, yes, afterall,
i do have to go back to the server to get data for flash? as far as
html/css/javascript and flash, you can client-side navigate all day long. i
don't see why you think flash is superior in some aspect because it can do
the same. hell, throw ajax in the mix and there's no outstanding difference
between flash and std. html server requests. duh.

| Again, all this is OBVIOUSLY way the fuck outta yer league, which is
| why you're having such a hard time comprehending it.

if the league you're in is stupidity, yes, i'm out of that one.

| >| ...why the fuck would a hacker want to alter bookmark URLs you
| >| dribbling dumbfuck? Do you even know what hacking is? Don't answer
| >| that, it's rhetorical.
|
| >hmmm...why the fuck would *all* browsers suddenly (starting about 5 years
| >ago) pay close attention to limiting the ability to alter urls and
bookmarks
| >in general? for one instance, oh unimaginative one, redirection. how
about
| >multi-domain hacks (even with ssl on the parent). i could go on, but i'm
| >sure you don't have a clue as to what i mean or what the implications
are.
| >run along and play now.
|
| Redirection, multi-domain hacks, etc all have NOTHING to do with
| creating bookmarks you fucking retard. MALWARE is prone to alter, or
| rather ADD bookmarks, but that's about it...and that's not done
| through the browser, ya fuckin idiot.

sure they can...you are one completely unimaginative fuck. think about it
more...when it hits, get back to me. zzzzzzzzzzzz.

| >| ...uh, hello, fucking retard, what part of GET VARIABLES did you not
| >| comprehend the first time I said it? It can alter the url and go to
| >| the appropriate section, it doesn't need to ACTUALLY go to the URL
| >| since it's technically ALREADY FUCKING THERE...yeesh...where the fuck
| >| did this n00b come from?
|
| >and the most dangerous hacking script in the world is completely harmless
| >until it is executed. hullo, change it as you will, it is meaningless
until
| >you do something with it. 'technically' isn't 'reality' now is it.
'there'
| >is in your fucking client. if the data is not also 'there', then you have
to
| >go somewhere else with your get variables. listen, now would be the time
to
| >remove your head from your ass.
|
| ...and now the retard is babbling on incoherently. You really don't
| comprehend how Flash files work, now do you?

sure do. it's just too bad you don't...enough that you can solve your own
problems instead of creating them.


| >| http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
| >|
| >| Jan 2006 - 10% of users have javascript disabled
| >| Jul 2006 - 8% of users have javascript disabled
| >| Jan 2007 - 6% of users have javascript disabled
| >|
| >| Noticing a trend here, Retard? Eventually even the technologically
| >| retarded get forced to catch up with the rest of us. And again, the
| >| site has a plain text fall back version regardless, so your whining is
| >| very much a moot point.
|
| No counter argument, huh?

none needed. you obviously think you are changing the world by forcing flash
on people. try and make money with your site. suddenly 8% (nice that you
include the 1.5 months of 2k7, lol) becomes important to you. but you go
ahead, develop your site...no one is noticing.


| >| >it is painfully obvious that you failed to architect any of these
factors
| >| >into your site...
|
| >| It is painfully obvious that you're Jesus molesting retarded for not
| >| having noticed that the site has a plain text fall back version built
| >| ESPECIALLY for retards like yourself. ^_^
|
| >lol. this is the amusement part. what a cad.
|
| You looking like a retard and not having a counter argument to defend
| your stupidity is pretty amusing, innt?

a counter argument to the counter 'insult here, more here, blah, blah,
blah'? yes, your counter to my point to my point does make it seem as if you
can't defend yourself. as for the one i offered to the 'blah, blah, jesus
molesting, blah, blah', i think i gave your comments adequate weight in
reply.

| >| Hey uh, Retard...I couldn't help but notice that you weren't actually
| >| able to offer...well, ANYTHING in the way of viable solution to the
| >| problem I've presented...well unless you count retarding back HTML
| >| 2.0, but since the site already has a fall back version the needs of
| >| your kind has already been met and, well, quite frankly this topic
| >| really doesn't have anything to do with you at all, Dribbles.
|
| >well, since i don't ever intend to offer you help,
|
| You confuse "don't intend" with "don't have the ability".

i won't. however let's not forget who didn't have a fucking clue about bits
and bytes and whom it was that schooled you. btw, have you figured that out
yet or is your mind still frying over how the basics of a computer work?

| >you should just quit posting your shit to alt.php
|
| But then what would you have to whine and snit about in a jealously
| fueled rage?

jealous of what? what rage? who's whining? i'd just prefer that you fuck
off. you assume all else outside of that plain point in fact. now, sod
off...or post a php question already.

| >- as i'm the only one here from whom you will ever get a response.
|
| Oh did all the regs elect you as head spokes retard or something?

no, they've all pulled me aside so far and said not to feed the troll. i
said i would after i have a bit of fun with it. those here who can help you
won't. we all think your an errogant, incompetent prick. sorry, that's just
the material you give us. we calls'em likes we seize um.

| >further, your posts are not questions...they are
| >bitching sessions about how you can't do something-or-other.
|
| They don't become bitching sessions until you start posting. Don't
| confuse YOUR actions with mine, my little projectionist.

christ, you mimic a lot. i accuse you of something, you turn around in your
next post and accuse me of the same thing...or claim what i just said is
something that you said. as it is, this is you offering a shitty counter to
a valid point. so far the only point of yours everyone can see is your
stupidity...so congrats...we all side with you on that point.

| >for your readers, it is NO big surprise to continually see that you can't
do
| >something. we just wish you'd either admit that it's not the technology
or
| >other people at fault
|
| So you're claiming that it is possible you just uh...er...that is...uh
| oh...backpedal...look out!

backpedal? and this would be backpedalling from a position i've always held?
and that being, you blame your mental incapabilities on everthing but your
mental incapabilities. you wanna explain that a bit more?

| Here's a thought...if you DON'T know the answer to a question I
| ask...why don't you try simply shutting yourself the fuck up? I mean,
| wouldn't that be easier, much less of a hassle than you having to be
| verbally beaten across a half dozen different Usenet froups or so.

here's a thought, i do know the answer but have no desire to help even
though i am fully capable of doing so. here's another, any wonder that no
one else in alt.php responds to your posts? answer: for the same reason.

first, i'd have to be verbally beaten. second, i participate in three ng's
and only one of those has be infested by you...which is why i hassle you for
being here. make you a deal, post php questions to alt.php when you have
them. otherwise, keep the flash shit diatribes in amf. either way, i think
you lean heavily on the 'or so' side of that unsupported lame comment.

btw, how's the infintilism going? oh and, nice picture...you really seem to
draw the best opinions out of people when it concerns what they think of
you.

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l8r doof-ass

 

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