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Posted by Stut on 07/01/05 11:43
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Andrew Scott wrote:
> Well at least I know that there are a few developers in here that are not
> very savvy when it comes to Enterprise Solutions with J2EE then.
That's a fair point, but rather than pointing it out it would be helpful
if you elaborated on your points rather than taking the "if you don't
know then I'm not going to tell you" approach.
> Multiple instances, what do you think this means or I guess you don't have
> the concept of instantiation?
Again, meaning what? Running several copies of the application on a
single server? Why would I want to do that?
> I am aware of the installation package for php for windows, but why is it
> not part of the main package to begin with, why a separate package. I asked
> this once before and was told because of security issues, can only go by
> what I have been told. I did say correct me if I am wrong!
Ok, let's start with the "main package". For PHP the "main package" is
the source code. You're clearly not very familiar with the way software
is distributed in the OSS world. In addition to the source code the PHP
site generously distributes two other packages for the Win32 platform -
a zip file and an installation package. Personally when I'm forced to
use Win32 as a server platform I always use the zip package because I'm
very picky about what gets installed where.
As for the security issues I'm not familiar with any security issues
that arise from using the installation package. If there were any I'm
sure they would have been published and almost certainly fixed by now.
> As far as Shared hosting, I can only say that you have led a sheltered life
> in your development cycle and don't know that applications that run in a
> shared environment such as one server running 13 websites can be a security
> risk. I think that if you understood what J2EE is all about first, then I
> wouldn't be having to explain myself on what J2EE is in depth.
Hmm, maybe I have led a sheltered life. I mean I've only been involved
with hosting companies for the past 15 years and have been running my
own hosting company for nearly 9 years, what would I know?!!
I won't disagree that shared hosting environments have a lot of
implications for security. I won't disagree that I don't know very much
about J2EE. What I would question is your assertion that J2EE provides
any extra security in a shared hosting environment than you can get with
any other system if the server is properly set up and your application
takes reasonable precautions. Having your application on a shared server
is never going to be as secure as having your own dedicated server just
as much as having a dedicated server in a third parties facility will
never be as secure as hosting it in your own facility.
Again if J2EE does provide extra security that cannot be achieved with
PHP please let me know. I urge you not to come back with another "J2EE
is better" but rather to explain why with specific features that make it
better.
-Stut
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