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Posted by "Andrew Scott" on 07/01/05 20:53
Stut,
FYI here is a copy of the text after installing php.
Windows Installer
The Windows PHP installer is available from the downloads page at
http://www.php.net/downloads.php. This installs the CGI version of PHP
and for IIS, PWS, and Xitami, it configures the web server as well.
The installer does not include any extra external PHP extensions
(php_*.dll) as you'll only find those in the Windows Zip Package and
PECL downloads.
Note: While the Windows installer is an easy way to make PHP work,
it is restricted in many aspects as, for example, the automatic
setup of extensions is not supported. Use of the installer isn't
the preferred method for installing PHP.
First, install your selected HTTP (web) server on your system, and
make sure that it works.
Run the executable installer and follow the instructions provided by
the installation wizard. Two types of installation are supported -
standard, which provides sensible defaults for all the settings it
can, and advanced, which asks questions as it goes along.
The installation wizard gathers enough information to set up the
php.ini file, and configure certain web servers to use PHP. One of the
web servers the PHP installer does not configure for is Apache, so
you'll need to configure it manually.
Once the installation has completed, the installer will inform you if
you need to restart your system, restart the server, or just start
using PHP.
Warning
Be aware, that this setup of PHP is not secure. If you would like to
have a secure PHP setup, you'd better go on the manual way, and set
every option carefully. This automatically working setup gives you an
instantly working PHP installation, but it is not meant to be used on
online servers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stut [mailto:stuttle@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2005 12:50 AM
To: Andrew Scott
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP vs. ColdFusion
Andrew Scott wrote:
> Hey it's not my fault that this stupid list needs a reply all!
While I agree with Jay that this is degrading into a meaningless
slanging match (of which I hope I have not caused) but I feel that I
must respond to your comments despite your personal attacks.
> I am going to guess Stut, that you don't know even know what the
difference
> between a singleton instantiated object is to a standard instantiated
> object?
I don't see the relevance of singletons when it comes to this
discussion. The architecture that PHP utilises means it can handle as
many concurrent requests as the web server will allow it to. If I
understand the J2EE model correctly, and I've said before that my
knowledge of it is sketchy at best, you create a number of instances of
the application and the application server handles distributing requests
between them. This is the same model as PHP except that there is an
extra layer between the web server and the application itself in J2EE -
namely the application server.
If I have this completely wrong please say so, but for $DEITYs sake
don't simply say I have it wrong again without explaining why.
You seem to be intent on skirting around telling us precisely what makes
J2EE a better solution in your opinion. I would be more than happy to
hear about it and take it on board because it might convince me to
investigate whether it might be worth getting to know it better. I'm
sure most other people on this list are also open to learning about
alternatives. But until you actually back up your statements rather than
turning to personal attacks there will be no benefit to anyone.
> You know for a php developer your really don't know your own product to
> well, and by your statement of no known security issues with an installer
> package (one file to execute to setup everything you need and in the right
> locations) not 3 packages one with the binaries one with the libraries and
> the third with partial of the other 2. And if you bothered to read the
text
> in your chosen language you would know about the security issues.
Ok that was an extraordinarily spectacular sentence that means very
little. "The text"?? What text? I see no reference to security issues
directly related to the Win32 installer on the PHP website. If I'm
suffering from temporary blindness I would appreciate a URL or other
reference so I can see more clearly.
-Stut
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