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Posted by dorayme on 05/04/07 21:56
In article <UEF_h.158415$Ij2.118610@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>,
"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> You mean dividing something that is logically one list, into a set of <ul>
> elements. Logic aside, that's simply unnecessarily complex.
>
I agree that it is much simpler for the website maker to list
thousands of names in one ul and let the user scroll down and
that this is also the cleanest thing to do from a meaning point
of view in the HTML. I don't agree that my suggested
columning-grouping-scheme is _simply_ unnecessarily complex. In
some situations it could be a useful visual ordering, easier for
humans to see neat blocks, read left to right as in my link. It
was a suggestion of mine that enabled the use of the whole screen
in a fluid manner.
> > you even get to keep an alphabetical ordering which a user will
> > quickly get to grasp.
>
> You get an alphabetic order if you just put the names in alphabetic order
> initially.
Of course, but the point as in my supplied demo url, is obviously
as you guess below.
> You probably mean that you get it _columnwise_, but why would
> that be superior, or even desirable?
So people on a big screens can do as little scrolling as possible
and still be getting the alphabetical order. See the demo I made
to illustrate the idea. Imagine the convenience when there are
big screens and thousands of names and a keen eyed user wanting
to know quite a few things. For a start, on a big screen, it is
much more likely that all the names beginning with a particular
letter will be able to be seen at once and scrutinised without
need of scrolling.
I confess, again, that it does involve splitting up a perfectly
meaningful single list into a number of lists for presentational
purposes. But there is an out on this one, with one uncomfortable
drawback. Namely, to make the lists based on alphabetical
grouping, namely all As in one list, all the Bs in another etc.
Then we have logic back and the rest is about presentation.
The drawback (and an idea to overcome it) I will leave for now as
I can't be sure anyone is that interested.
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dorayme
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