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Posted by Chet on 05/23/07 08:36
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"Adrienne Boswell" <arbpen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Chet"
> <cfnews@REMOVEcharter.net>
> writing in news:CVR4i.236$293.216@newsfe02.lga:
>
>> Hi Adrienne
>>
>>> You're welcome, although you might not like this answer.
>>
>> Yes, I still very much appreciate your replies.
>>
>> I basically agree with not opening a new window but this is a
>> list of image previews from a thumbnail list. That's why I
>> would
>> like to provide the option - there's a link for opening in the
>> same window plus the optional new_window link.
>
> Have you had a look at http://porjes.com/butterflies/ .
> There's also a
> neat way to do something like what you want with CSS, look at
> http://realtybenefitsystems.com/allen.asp . Scroll down to the
> bottom
> and notice how the images enlarge on hover - click and the
> image at the
> top is replaced with the full size of that at the bottom. No
> pop-ups, no
> new windows.
>
Adriene, I visited the realtybenefitsystems.com site and yes,
that's a cool way of displaying the larger images. However, I had
my browser set to 1024x768 and on several of the larger images
most of it was out of view and on some cause a horizontal scroll
bar to appear which couldn't be reached without the image
disappearing.
porjes.com is also quite nice, for that size image. I'm trying to
display a little larger image (640x360 approx 20-25kb) - yes, the
visitor has been advised as to it's size/download time for the
high quality preview, and I'm working on the lower quality
(mainly much smaller file sizes) images for slower connections. I
did notice this one was on a php page and am now re-thinking if I
can do something similar in asp (not aspDOTnet, just plain old
asp) as the pages are being generated from a db.
>>
>> Being able to open the new window allows the user to close
>> that
>> window and return to the list quickly. Yes, I know the Back
>> button does exactly the same, but sometimes not as quickly, at
>> least on the browsers/machines I've used. "Some" users like
>> large
>> preview images in a separate window/tab, I'll usually opt for
>> the
>> new window in this case.
>
> Still, it should be an option you give the user. Don't force
> it. If the
> user wants to open links in new windows/tabs/whatever, then let
> THE USER
> do it, not you.
I am letting the user decide by providing two links; same_window
or new_window. OK, they now have to make a decision, but how is
that forcing? Occasionally visitors forget about right click -
new window, I'm just trying to provide the visitor with a nice
visit, and reminding them the large preview MAY (not WILL) be
opened in a new window if THEY desire.
>
>>
>>> Then they're the lucky ones because they don't have to worry
>>> about you
>>> spawning new windows on them.
>>
>> I'm not really spawning new windows, in my opinion. As I said,
>> this is an optional link for a new window next to the same
>> window
>> link, How is that spawning? It'll be labeled as such, Opens in
>> New Window - Opens in Same Window
>
> The _blank value for the target attribute opens a new window.
> If you
> have 15 images, then 15 windows could be opened up. For
> someone on
> dialup with a slow system, that might be enough to crash their
> system.
> Please let the user be in control of his or her own browser.
>
>>
>> But anyway, I do appreciate the replay even though I'm now
>> closer
>> to my answer.
>>
>
> I'm pretty sure you misspelled, and I hope you ARE _now_ closer
> to your
> answer.
>
> --
> Adrienne Boswell at Home
> Arbpen Web Site Design Services
> http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
> Please respond to the group so others can share
>
Thank you for the two links as they do give me more to think of.
But displaying a 640x360 image in the middle of a page is not
always easy when I'm trying to make sure it doesn't bring up a
horizontal scroll bar when the window is set to 800x600, it
doesn't leave much to work with. The css creates a fluid width
page (94% widow width) so I don't have much to work with for
800x600 viewers, larger windows are no problem.
I'd provide a link but the site's only on my local server (winxp
pro; iis5). What I'm displaying is widescreen format wallpaper,
the 640x360 is a preview for a 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 image. I'm
using .asp with a small Access db with a dns-less connection to
the db. I have several hundred to list via categories (12 so far)
and search functions.
How to make the most visitors happy AND keep the pages valid AND
look the same in all browsers AND, oh well, back to the drawing
board somewhat!!
Thanks again,
Chet
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