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Posted by cwdjrxyz on 06/02/07 21:06
On Jun 2, 11:28 am, cwdjrxyz <spamtr...@cwdjr.info> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 8:25 am, freemont <freem...@spammenotfreemontsoffice.com>
> wrote:
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> > On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:17:39 +0000, rf writ:
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> > > OK, you convinced me to look at subject site.
>
> > > Oh my.
> > > You are correct. It's way too late to close the barn door. The horses are in
> > > then next county by now pardner.
>
> > > In just 60 seconds of perusal I spotted about 14 things that are simply
> > > plain stupid. By modern standards that is.
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> > <http://i15.tinypic.com/61wgsaf.jpg> Opera 9.21 Mandriva Linux, Flash
> > enabled
>
> > I assume there's supposed to be something in the middle of the page. Oh,
> > well, guess I can't use the site. :-\
>
> I just checked with my Opera 9.21 with a Windows XP OS, and Flash 9.
> If you mean the page you get after you click "enter" on the home page,
> it works for me. The middle of the page has a flash player. It takes a
> few moments to pop up as a black box. The control panel for the player
> may not be seen until you move the cursor onto the black player area.
> You must start the player with this control panel. The panel then
> disappears after a few seconds again. This is a flash option that
> hides the control panel unless it is being used. If the page still
> does not work for you, perhaps the flash version you have is not
> recent enough. Then it is possible that the Linux OS is having
> problems with the code used. The site is just being started up. They
> ask for feedback, so if you still are having a problem, you might want
> to contact them.
>
> The preliminary site demo was written by a commercial web development
> company, for free I think, that is mentioned somewhere on the site. At
> present the code is written in xhtml 1.0 transitional, but is being
> served as just text/html. I have no idea if they intend to set the
> server to serve true xhtml as application/xhtml+xml in the future. And
> of course their code for the flash object does not validate. They use
> the common ActiveX object for it that contains an embed path for most
> browsers, other than IE, that do not support ActiveX. This seems to
> work and is often used. However modern valid code can be used by using
> Microsoft conditional comments to route to an ActiveX path if IE and
> route to an ordinary object path if not IE rather than the embed path
> used. The embed tag is what causes errors at the W3C html validator,
> because embed is not and never has been an official W3C tag. It is a
> relic from the browser war era. There are other "warts". I don't know
> who will write the final code used on the finished site. They
> apparently were in a hurry to get something up for a demo.
After more carefully checking the flash code, I find it calls for
version 8 of flash(9 is now the top). If your flash player is 7 or
below, this very likely could be the problem. Owners of MSNTV 2 set
top boxes are at version 7 flash. So far Microsoft has not upgraded
their flash to 8, to say nothing of 9. I checked some of their groups,
and many are now very bitter that Microsoft will not upgrade them from
7 to at least 8, since they can no longer view many flash videos. The
MSNTV 2 box is based on a watered down IE6 browser used for small
devices, and all program downloads can only be done by Microsoft - not
the box owner. The material in the flash being discussed is rather
simple and could just as well be written with 7 version authoring
programs. I have a program for creating FLV/flash videos, and it
allows you to select flash version 7 or 8. I guess this all shows
that, for media, if you stay about 2 versions behind in authoring, you
will reach more people who are slow to upgrade for whatever reason. In
most cases a new version player will work just fine in media authored
with older version programs, but the reverse often is not true. If you
know the details of what changes from one upgrade to another, you
might well be able to avoid things not supported in an earlier version
if they are not absolutely necessary.
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