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Posted by windandwaves on 07/11/05 15:39
mark | r wrote:
> yeah Blair will use it to push through ID Cards - which will have NO
> EFFECT on terrorism what so ever - roumers have it that the cards
> will (at the last count) cost £240 - this has risen from the original
> quoted price of £40 - blair's said that £240 is not a lot of money -
> for him maybe, but i certainly cant afford that - also you'll have to
> update them every X years costing yet another £240 tho buy then i
> expect the price will have risen again
>
> and if you dont buy one you'll get fined £2000 for every day you dont
> have one - i'd rarther go to prison than subject myself to yet
> enother TAX! i hope us british stand up against such opression.
>
> expect some of my future posts to be c/o HM Prison Services :)
>
> Mark
>
> "Awake" <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
> news:VYMMT8UC38544.272962963@anonymous...
>>
>>
>> As the smoke begins to clear we see the same pattern develop as
>> after 9-11-2001. The perpetrator (the fictional "Al Qaeda") is
>> immediately named by the media. The political agenda -whatever it
>> may have been- is gone and replaced by the "War on Terror". Issues
>> such as poverty and domestic spending priorities are pushed off the
>> map. Political dissenters find little tolerance and may find
>> themselves warned to shut up and get with the program (throw up the
>> one arm salute!).
>>
>> And what of the evidence for this being a strike by "Al Qaeda"? Oh,
>> there will be no investigation of that by the media. All claims by
>> the "security services" will be transmitted unquestioned. No blame
>> will befall MI6. Instead the budgets for security will immediately
>> go up. Civil liberties will be retracted in order to "fight terror".
>>
>> So while the blast is still topical and before things are pushed
>> down the Orwellian memory hole let us examine this supposed "claim
>> of responsibility". Here in America there has never been even the
>> slightest attention paid to the details of any "claim of
>> responsibility". All we get is that "the CIA confirms".
>>
>> In the Guardian on July 9, 2005 David Gallister reports that the
>> claim was made on a Web site registered by "Qalaah Qalaah in Abu
>> Dhabi" and the site was hosted not in the mysterious mountains of
>> Pakistan, but "by a server in Houston, Texas".
>>
>> Oh my.
>>
>> Now we Americans reading this can see why we are never given details.
>>
>> It gets worse actually because even this is not traceable to any
>> webmaster. The claim is on a "forum" where anyone can post. That
>> means some kid could have posted this child like claim of an
>> organization called "the Secret Organisation of the al-Qaida Jihad
>> in Europe".
>>
>> Sounds like something from Batman.
>>
>> Almost a year ago a man in San Francisco named Benjamin Vanderford
>> faked his own beheading and uploaded the video through file sharing
>> programs. His "beheading" was then reported as fact by the
>> "American" media, in fact they seemed gleeful to have such a gory
>> incident to report.
>>
>> The only thing different here is that we have real dead bodies, but
>> there is no evidence whatsoever to point to any "terror group".
>>
>> However, we can do some theorizing. Let's look at that language of
>> the claim that was made at www.al-qal3ah.com . "The Secret
>> Organisation of the al-Qaida Jihad in Europe", oh my doesn't that
>> sound evil! Kind of like the "axis of evil" and referring to unnamed
>> people as "evil doers" and "bad guys".
>>
>> Who does that? Perhaps it is better to ask "who writes that for
>> Dubya to say?"
>>
>> Climate change? Debt forgiveness for Africa? World poverty? Peace in
>> the Middle East?
>>
>> Poof!
>>
>> Replaced by the "War on Terror"!
>>
>> Can you see the smile on Dubya's face?
>>
>> They're all smiles at Langley and Tel Aviv as well.
>>
>>
>> - - - - - -
>> "According to Michael Moloney, Gehring had even applied to
>> the CIA, and used to tell a story about it. The marine from
>> Dayton 'had no academic credentials,' Moloney relates, but
>> the CIA 'liked his attitude. "The world is full of commie bastards
>> and all I wanted to do at that time was kill, kill, kill."'
>> Moloney quotes Gehring as having said."
>> -Jonathan Kwitny,"The Crimes of Patriots" ISBN: 0-393-02387-7
>>
>>
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I wonder what it feels like to be responsible for the death of so many
people. Do you think you can ever justify something like that to yourself
along the lines "for of the greater good"?
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