|  | Posted by MI5Victim on 06/23/07 03:26 
From: Green <Green@guidion.demon.co.uk>Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british
 Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: Why Aren't the British Police Doing Their Job?
 Reply-To: Green@guidion.demon.co.uk
 Date: Sun Apr  7 21:13:30 1996
 
 In article <DpIE0r.736.0.bloor@torfree.net>
 bu765@torfree.net "Mike Corley" writes:
 
 > Last Easter (1995) I went into the local police station in London and spoke to
 > an officer about the harassment against me. But I couldn't provide tangible
 > evidence; what people said, in many cases years ago, is beyond proof, and
 > without something to support my statements I cannot expect a police officer to
 > take the complaint seriously.
 
 This in itself dos not suggest that the police have it in for you.
 The old bill operates on extremely tight spending limits forced on
 them by that pillock Michael Howard, and without evidence, they
 often have higher priorities than chasing something that cannot go
 to court.
 
 I doubt that the police are actually being leant on, but they probably
 realise that if they looked into this, they would be leant on hard.
 The met always stays away from anything that looks like it has Defence,
 Security or secret service interest already, because they realise that
 they are below these government agencies in the general pecking order.
 
 This attitude was made clear in a TV show where a left wing comedian
 heckled some aristocratic Tory candidate in a local election.  The
 police officer gave the comic a ticking off, even though you could see
 that this young copper sympathised with the comedian, and regarded
 the Tory as an upper-crust wanker.  He said, and I quote "I'm giving you
 the ticking off and not him because he's a Lord and I'm a Police Constable."
 
 If I walked into my local nick and complained that MI5 were snooping on me,
 they would show me the door without even looking at my evidence, because
 that bored desk seargant with only five years to go before he retires
 doesn't want to start fucking about with somebody who has incurred the
 wrath of Stella Rimington.  He would rather deal with the lost dogs and
 driving licence producers, eat his cheese and pickle sandwiches and piss
 off home at the end of his shift than have some high ranking spook having
 a go at his boss and getting him a bollocking.
 
 In short, you have earned much sympathy but little surprise.  Just remember
 that saying about the enemy of your enemies.
 
 Have a nice day.
 
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 >This in itself dos not suggest that the police have it in for you.
 >The old bill operates on extremely tight spending limits forced on
 >them by that pillock Michael Howard, and without evidence, they
 >often have higher priorities than chasing something that cannot go
 >to court.
 
 I think the police know well what's going on. It is up to them to do
 something about it. They know I've made a complaint at a police station.
 I could probably do more to try to help myself (I think someone suggested
 making a written complaint to the chief constable) but even then I nthink
 they would not take action.
 
 >
 >I doubt that the police are actually being leant on, but they probably
 >realise that if they looked into this, they would be leant on hard.
 >The met always stays away from anything that looks like it has Defence,
 >Security or secret service interest already, because they realise that
 >they are below these government agencies in the general pecking order.
 >
 So we have a situation where the security service breaks the law,
 everyone knows MI5 breaks the law, and the police won't investigate
 crimes that would otherwise earn a jail sentence.
 
 Oh good, I'm really glad the UK is a democracy. (<sarcasm>, for those of
 you who didn't catch that)
 
 >If I walked into my local nick and complained that MI5 were snooping on me,
 >they would show me the door without even looking at my evidence, because
 >that bored desk seargant with only five years to go before he retires
 >doesn't want to start fucking about with somebody who has incurred the
 >wrath of Stella Rimington.  He would rather deal with the lost dogs and
 >driving licence producers, eat his cheese and pickle sandwiches and piss
 >off home at the end of his shift than have some high ranking spook having
 >a go at his boss and getting him a bollocking.
 
 In this case I think it is 'high-ranking' police officers who are aware
 of the persecution, they know a complaint has been made, and they're
 doing nothing. What is more, I don't think there is anything I can do
 that would make them take action, both because they may be being 'leant
 on' and through the wider view that it could be deleterious to the state
 to have a persecution by state organs exposed.
 
 They're wrong in taking that point of view, because sooner or later this
 will all out anyway, and they it will be n years of police inaction
 (n>=6) that will be questioned.
 
 >
 >In short, you have earned much sympathy but little surprise.  Just remember
 >that saying about the enemy of your enemies.
 >
 >Have a nice day.
 
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