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Posted by Blinky the Shark on 07/10/07 00:26
wayne wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> wayne wrote:
>>> Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
>>>> Scripsit GreatArtist:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 8, 12:23 am, "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorp...@cs.tut.fi> wrote:
>>>>>>> (a lot of arrogant pissing contest bullshit)
>>>>> Jerka, you're a miserable piece of shit.
>>>> You're a disgusting coward who insults people, hiding behind a
>>>> nickname. I'd rather be pig's vomit or rotten shit than anything
>>>> like that.
>>>>
>>>>> Yes I just recently read books on HTML, XHTML, and CSS.
>>>> There are lots of bad books on them. Besides, reading is not
>>>> enough; comprehension is required. You have already demonstrated
>>>> that you didn't learn much. You would need a good book on basics.
>>> Just curious, but what makes you THE authority on html, css, and
>>> xhtml?
>>
>> Just curious: would you like a little contest between Jukka and
>> yourself to see who knows more about the subject?
>
> My reply to you was rude, I apologize. I would like to be enlightened
Accepted. I already responded to that, but not defensively like you did
to my post.
> as to what the purpose of this group is. Is it to stroke the
> "regulars" egos by demonstrating how inadequate others are, or to
> offer help to those wanting to learn web authoring?
In my opinion, it's (mostly) to talk about issues of importance and
interest to people who create and maintain web documents. Regulars
learn from this dialog; newbies learn from this dialog. Some people
think it's a help desk, and while help is certainly given out every day
to those requesting it, some come in with the attitude that they're
*owed* something; those sometimes are asked if they'd like a refund;
some of them actually get the point, but some don't.
> Surely their must be some "regulars" that find "You should stop
> working
"there". "their" is a possessive, as in "it's their new car".
> on web pages before you understand the basics, including the alt
> attribute. -Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")" to be pretty intolerant. Also,
That's sometimes very good advice. For those who come here to get
stroked for their wonderful new site it may come as a surprise. But it
*still* might be very good advice for them.
> the sentence is grammatically incorrect. Do English teachers make
Jukka's statement is gramatically correct.
He's blunt. But he's a wealth of information. You won't go wrong
listening to him.
> statements that one should not write until one masters the language?
> If
One probably shouldn't *publish* until one has the necessary skills; web
pages are published (or they're not much use, sitting there on your
local machine).
> we all wait until we know everything about a subject before we tackled
> it, nothing would ever get started.
His instruction was about "understand(ing) the basics", not about
"know(ing) everything". Don't redefine what he said and then cop an
attitude to what *you* made up.
> Doe you believe that you were experts when you published your first
> webpage?
I can only speak for myself, which is less than your question asks. No,
of course I wasn't. And Jukka has not said anything about being an
expert. He suggested that you learn the "basics". You might want to
pay more attention to what's actually been *said*, rather than making up
stuff and getting your nose bent about what *you've* created.
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