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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 07/16/07 00:09
Hadron wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>> Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> writes:
>>>
>>>> You are the second one in this thread who obviously didn't read the "not
>>>> logged in" in the original post
>>> I am reading the "stateless protocol" stuff above and replying to that
>>> in the context of PHP.
>>>
>> Then you're not understanding what "stateless protocol" means.
>>
>> .
>>>> And what does session counting tell you? Sessions can be open for hours
>>>> without any user interaction. The user could have died already in front
>>>> of his monitor and his session would still be open.
>>> That's not the issue. Clearly something on a server cant know IF he is
>>> reading the page or not. You can only go on the connections.
>>>
>> This is correct.
>
> Good. Because that is ALL this is about.
>
Yes, now if you could just get your head out of your arse so you could
understand the rest.
>>> "Currently online" has a meaning - and that is that HIS PC is
>>> connected. The rest is guesswork.
>>>
>> There is no way to know if someone si "currently online". All you
>> know is he was online when he last requested a page. Anything else is
>> a guess.
>
> Jesus H Christ.
>
Showing your lack of IQ, again? That's the only reason I can understand
to bring His name into this discussion.
> Yes. But he IS connected. The session IS open. Whether he is physically
> sat there is something we can NEVER know.
>
No, he is not. All you know is that he was connected when he made the
request. Period. No more. No less.
The session may be open - but that doesn't mean he's doing anything with
your site. All it means is that you haven't bothered to clean up the
mess he left yet.
>>>> Whatever way you go - it's always just guessing. So why bother at all?
>>> Absolute tosh.
>>>
>> Yep, your concept is absolute tosh.
>
> Balderdash.
>
Only in your mind and that of those otherwise completely lacking in
understanding about how the Internet works. Fortunately, most of us are
more informed - and more intelligent - than you.
>>>> Why show a questionable "information" that is of absolutely no use for
>>>> the visitor? Just to show how cool and active the "community" is? If you
>>>> want that you can use rand() - it's much easier than all others
>>>> methods.
>>> As I said - you are clueless.
>>>
>> Yep, you are totally clueless. You have absolutely no idea how this
>> works, and think you can pull the wool over experienced programmers'
>> eyes.
>
> What ARE you talking about? I have implemented session based web sites.
>
So? You've implemented sessions. Bully for you. It's something
anyone with a second grade education and a computer can do.
It doesn't mean you have any idea what you're talking about. But your
other posts here have proven you don't.
>> You can do it to clueless clients. But you can't do it here.
>>
>> And I pity those clients.
>
> Ye gods. Go get a clue.
>
Yep, I agree. You need to get a clue.
Suggestion - learn from those in this newsgroup who know more than you.
But I know you won't. Your kind never do.
And unfortunately, you create a bad name for the rest of us who really
do know what's going on. But we do our best to expose your fraud.
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