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Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 07/30/07 01:00
On 29 Jul 2007 13:17:21 GMT, Neredbojias <monstersquasher@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:32:22
>GMT Chaddy2222 scribed:
>
>>> > Hmmm well yes, I could see Hatters point as well. But until Flash
>>> > has a way of becomeing more accessible (by users with adaptive
>>> > technology) I probably won't be designing entire websites with it.
>>> > In a lot of cases good old HTML with some CSS for styleing works
>>> > fine and means you end up with a site with a consistent look and
>>> > feel, even if that "look" is not quite the same in all browsing
>>> > environments. The thing is though, even if the site does look the
>>> > same in all browsers (as in all visual browsers) through the use of
>>> > flash, then it still means that it won't work for those of us
>>> > useing aural browsers (so some kind of alternative still needs to
>>> > be provided. This means that you then need to update two sites
>>> > with the same content, which is why I like the CSS method, as you
>>> > can keep all the visual style seprat from the rest of the content
>>> > makeing it easier for SE bots and screen readers and visitors to
>>> > access the content. This also means that all visual
>>> > branding is kept in tact.
>>> > --
>>> > Regards Chad.http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz
>>>
>>> Yes, you make many good points. I think the conclusion is that Flash
>>> has to be improved, as does html/css, etc. -And the browsers. It's
>>> just that sometimes I get a little sick of all the things that
>>> _don't_ work under "normal" html auspices. Yesterday I found a
>>> beauty of a bug in Firefox. Reload a page of thumbs and the first
>>> one disappears... Oh, I'm sure there are conditions. I think the
>>> thumb has to be bigger than a certain size, and perhaps centering
>>> plays a part, but it's definitely a bug - for something as simple as
>>> that. (Probably relates to the cache because it only happens
>>> online.) Geesh, will they ever get it right?
>>>
>> Hmmm, well images on the web are a tricky thing to get right, did you
>> miss setting a hight on one of those images by any chance? Cause that
>> is what it sounds like.
>
>No way, Jose. -Or in this case: Are you mad, Chad? The heights & widths
>are the same for all images and included via css. Markup and css validate,
>and there's nothing particularly unusual about the page. Here's one
>example of the general template:
>
>http://www.neredbojias.com/opa.html
>
>(Damn, reviewing the source, I see there _is_ some superfluous stuff, but
>believe me, those hs's have nothing to do with it. The basic 8-pic, fixed-
>top, cleared-content div layout does it. My only other example is adult
>material.)
>
>> But as to your question, no I don't think they ever will the web is
>> not like paper as they say (I mean it's just impossible to prodict
>> anything on the web. Having said that if you write valid code you will
>> have a better chance of items working the way you want and I am really
>> starting to not be as concerned with IE as a result of this
>> (especially as FireFox Opera and all of those type browsers running
>> gecho display stuff in a very similar way.
>
>My code is valid - even when it's not. <grin>
>
>Actually, my markup _is_ valid. I don't believe I have any pages left with
>exceptions.
Validation DOES NOT equate to cross browser compatibility, therefore,
it's pointless. You're wasting your time, only attempting validation
as a means of stroking your deficient ego.
ANYONE can make a W3C compliant site...and the really ironic part is
that you don't even need compliant code to do it:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/wwcc/histology-1/
LOL, just have javascript or PHP render your code and you can make
your code as non compliant as you want! ^_^
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
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