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Posted by Jerry Stuckle on 07/29/07 21:35
Rami Elomaa wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle kirjoitti:
>> Rami Elomaa wrote:
>>> Frank kirjoitti:
>>>> Good morning,
>>>>
>>>> I'm a newbie and I'm about to study a scripting language to create
>>>> an HTML form. What's the best language for this, and why?
>>>>
>>>> JavaScript? PHP? PERL? Ajax? ASP? VBScript?
>>>
>>> First you need to get your terms right. There's client-side
>>> scripting, and then there's server-side scripting. PHP, Perl, ASP and
>>> JSP (which you didn't mention, but it's wort looking into still) are
>>> server-side languages, JavaScript and VBScript are client-side. Ajax
>>> is not a language at all, it's the name for a technique that allows
>>> javascript to communicate with some server-side application.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, you need to get your terms right. VBScript is also server-side.
>>
>>> Choosing between javascript and vbscript, there really is no
>>> competition, VBScript is microsoft proprietary bullshit, it works
>>> only in MS Internet Explorer, and knowing that there is a variety of
>>> other browsers, you can't choose a language that works in only one of
>>> them. So for client-side scripts you use javascript. And if possible,
>>> don't use it, try to make everything work with just server-side
>>> scripts. JavaScript is just an enhancment, not a complete solution.
>>>
>>
>> It also works on Microsoft servers, i.e. IIS. While I'm not fond of
>> it, I do have a couple of customers who use it. It works quite well,
>> when done properly.
>>
>> When run on the server, the client doesn't matter, just like any
>> server-side language.
>>
>>> Next the choice between PHP, Perl, ASP and JSP. Again, one of these
>>> languages is microsoft-only, works only in Windows+IIS webserver,
>>> wouldn't go there. For PHP, Perl and JSP then, JSP is propably the
>>> most sophisticated since it's completly object oriented language,
>>> maybe most difficult to learn but worth it. PHP and Perl are good
>>> choices both, just pick one. Since this is a php group I have to
>>> recommend php.
>>>
>>
>> ASP is not a language. It is an interface. You can use several
>> different languages with it.
>>
>> JSP is also not a language, but a way of adding Java code to web
>> pages. The underlying code is Java.
>>
>> Before suggesting someone else get their terminology straight, I
>> suggest you get yours straight. And get rid of the attitude.
>
> Thanks Jerry for correcting me. JavaScript as server-side is such an
> unusual situation that I don't even consider it as such, even though it
> is entierly possible as you pointed out. As for VB and ASP you are
> correct, my bad. But what do you mean by attitude and why should I get
> rid of it? I thought I was helping the fellow but it seems that you know
> better than me so from now on I'll say nothing. Instead of getting rid
> of an attitude I'll get rid of myself.
>
> It's been fun here, time to move on.
>
> -Rammy
>
Rammy,
I didn't say anything about Javascript being server side. Only VBScript.
As for your attitude - I'm referring to your comments such as "VBScript
is microsoft proprietary bullshit".
Maybe it is, and maybe you feel this way. However, the op was
requesting an honest comparison between languages, and such comments
limit your credibility.
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