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Posted by Kevin Scholl on 08/09/07 02:44
Neredbojias wrote:
> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:27:08
> GMT Kevin Scholl scribed:
>
>> Neredbojias wrote:
>>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Wed, 08 Aug 2007
>>> 22:11:54 GMT Romper scribed:
>>>
>>>> (The spec is massive, with lots of loose ends, none of us could
>>>> possibly provide a fixed quote for the client, re: how much work the
>>>> project will actually turn out to be. Its too big, there are too
>>>> many loose ends. The only fair way for all of us would be an hourly
>>>> rate.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, we always charge fixed prices. Its the way we have always
>>>> worked, for the sole reason that 99% of the projects we get are new,
>>>> and start from scratch).
>>>>
>>>> My question was: What does a middle of the road web dev company tend
>>>> to charge in the USA :)
>>> Bottom line for top company - about $60-$65 per hour. Others will
>>> surely demure, but notice I said "bottom line".
>> Can you elaborate then on what you mean by "bottom line"?
>>
>> Most top companies for whom I've worked and dealt with price out their
>> designers and developers easily into triple figures; $120 or $125 per
>> hour is not all that uncommon.
>
> If you have a strict t & m (time-and-material/services) contract, such a
> quote _may_ be accepted by some companies with airs, but down at the
> nitty-gritty level, no enterprise in its right mind would pay that open-
> endedly for a website. Perhaps a not-to-exceed clause might get you such
> figures, but you asked what the normal _real_ rate was, and I answered
> according to my knowledge.
Fair enough answer, though I assure you that such figures aren't
uncommon. I've seen the formal Statements of Work and estimate sheets,
and those figures are quite real. Granted, we're talking complete Web
solutions produced by teams, including e-commerce and such, not simple
Web sites. But the design and front-end development aspects got those
amounts.
$60-$65 ... not much more than I get freelancing, and that IS for
relatively simple sites and general graphic design.
>> Granted, those individuals may only see half of (if) that in their
>> paychecks. Perhaps that's what you mean by "bottom line"...
>
> "Bottom Line" doesn't have a precise definition and its details _can_
> very from agreement to agreement, but it still is the real, effective
> rate-of-income one can expect. Lots of people quote triple-figures, but
> lots of people lie, too. Of all the maybe 2 dozen people I ever talked
> to who visited Las Vegas and discussed their fortunes, only 1 actually
> lost money. Yeah, right.
Heh heh!
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