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Posted by Steve on 08/29/07 18:09
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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| Steve wrote:
| > "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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| > but that's just me. everything is a rewrite...or an origination. what
| > benefit is it to anyone to split hairs over a term that is itself,
already
| > controvertial and unclear?
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| > don't get me wrong, jerry. i think saunders kaufman has his head
squarely up
| > his ass, which explains why he's 'in the dark' on this topic. however,
i've
| > done all the 'extreme' stuff including paired programming, bidding,
etc.. as
| > i've said, it comes from common practices in other fields all the way
back
| > to the early 1900's. ain't nothn' 'extreme' about it as far as
programming
| > is concerned. as for the lingo associated with it, may it forever be
limited
| > to the context of the book that espoused it. for me, i use specifics
when i
| > need someone else to understand what i'm doing or what they need to do.
| > 'refactoring' is not specific enough.
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| It's always so wild when someone STARTS by saying I have my head up my
| butt, and then GOES ON to say why they agree with me about stuff.
i agree that to me, it's mostly lingo. HOWEVER UNLIKE YOU, i know BOTH
sides - what refactoring is, how it is used, have experienced the entire
'extreme programming' gammut. i have an INFORMED opinion while you not only
have your head up your ass, you seem quite comfortable in leaving it there
and speaking from it.
see the difference?
| The reason is obvious, would you rather hire a genius to belittle you,
| your company and your project - or a half-wit who will get the job done.
now that would entirely be based on the premise that 1) all geniuses
belittle people and 2) a half-wit can actually get the job done.
i'm glad you get jobs, but your category of 'wittedness' probably only
allows you exposure to those jobs that have little impact on things. if you
up the requirements or up the stakes, so too must you find developers that
can deliver. those would be the ones who learn about their industry
standards, practices, and yes, even lingo so that their expertise will lend
the best solution.
but you go ahead and be happy throwing dispution on things which you know
nothing about.
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